As happy as one can be when the decisions in your life and in the lives of those around you are being taken by some self appointed annointed.
apostatethunder
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Was Any Part of it Real?
by Big Tex ini'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.
i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.
a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.
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apostatethunder
Big Tex, as in the movie, they were real at the time. Saying that, a relationship is between two individuals, if one of the individuals has lost his/her personal identity in deference to a group, you are not dealing with an individual anymore, so it’s the equivalent of you having a personal relationship with an entity through its representatives. It’s real in a sense, but it’s not what human relationships are about. Personally I think that the relationships in the organization are very superficial in general, as there is never the level of trust and openness that is required to have meaningful relationships. They are isolated from each other as their main loyalty will always be to the organization.
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The real truth is that you know you've recovered when you stop caring about JW's
by gubberningbody init's perhaps sad, but perhaps a bit of wisdom to come to realize how insignificant jws really are.. .
you finally get to the point where you don't even care what happens to the borg one way or another.. .
this said after almost four years..
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apostatethunder
You know you are recovered when you are the owner of your own life and decisions. For some people this happens when they are still in the organization, some take years to fully recover even after they leave. Everybody should care about cults, they have an effect on the whole of society and the way society evolves.
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UK Anti-Cult charity under threat of closure
by cedars ini'm wondering what you all make of this story from the guardian regarding the cult information centre - a uk charity that aims to raise awareness of cults.
it seems that it's on the verge of having its charitable status withdrawn (or, at least, this was the case three months ago).
unsurprisingly, the complaints that have led to its potential closure stem from cults such as the church of scientology.. here is the story:.
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apostatethunder
This is very serious. A cult is a group that manipulates and takes advantage of people, an anti-cult is a group that helps people recover from a cult. They have their own beliefs? Sure, so do you and me and everyone else. Do they coerce anyone to accept their beliefs? Do they exploit people’s vulnerabilities for their own gain? Do they respect basic human rights like freedom to dissent? Do they blackmail people that is trapped in to make them disclose their private lives, that they have no right to know much less to judge? Do they harass people that leave the group in any way? If you think about it, it is not so difficult to distinguish one from the other.
If they talk about Jesus and the Trinity is because jws despite calling themselves Christians are anti-Christians. Exposing that doesn’t make you a cult. What someone chooses to believe is his/her personal decision, stepping in someone else’s personal rights is not. Not respecting somebody’s personal conscience goes high on the list of cult traits.
About the therapist that had to stop helping people, that goes beyond cult or not cult, it is just criminal.
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apostatethunder
It makes them feel better about themselves. If you look happy they seem surprised. One way the society keeps them in is by fear of what is in the world, so they will think twice before leaving the organization. Everybody knows stories of the ones who left and how bad they fared. I noticed that some of them seem envious of the ones with the courage to leave anyway. Deep down they know, even though they are too trapped to even realize why they feel this way.
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Spain may tax the Catholic Church?
by darthfader inrunning low on money, the spanish government looks at the catholic church for property tax revenue:.
http://news.yahoo.com/amid-economic-crisis-spain-ponders-taxing-catholic-church-092208656.html.
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apostatethunder
The Catholic church in Spain and Italy is already a big source of income to the State in terms of tourism. They own a big part of the historical patrimony of this countries. That and all the services they provide like schools, charities, etc, and the religious support to individuals, that comes without a blank check for them to run your life as they please. Not all religions are the same.
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Could the JWs fit the defintion of Fascism?
by Aussie Oz infascism ( /'f?
?z?m/) is a radicalauthoritariannationalist political ideology.
[1][2] fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitariansingle-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics.
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apostatethunder
Good question, they are controlling and totalitarian, but what is their real aim? If they are not about religion, what are they about?
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Emmanuel Goldstein
by d inin george orwell's 1984 the percieved enemy emmanuel goldstein wrote a book called theory and practice of oligarchical collectivism in where on one one number he talks ignorace as source of strength for the people in control.. this says lot about the jw's and people in power.. the theory and practice of oligarchical collectivism.
chapter i - ignorance is strength.
throughout recorded time, and probably since the end of the neolithic age, there have been three kinds of people in the world, the high, the middle, and the low.
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apostatethunder
Ignorance is strength, but their own ignorance. In the end it is too costly for you to keep slaves. Far more intelligent to contribute to the common good.
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Only an apostate would flee to the forbidden zone! Which movie was this a quote from?
by usualusername inonly an apostate would flee to the forbidden zone!
which movie was this a quote from?.
uun.
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apostatethunder
It is an honor to be an apostate of certain causes.
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Has anybody given any thought for Calebs freind ?
by smiddy inafter all, this unidentified freind of caleb gives him a toy, which calebs mom finds objectionable , shouldn`t she just have said to caleb ,give it back to your freind ?
and not dump it in the trash can ?
what sort of a message does that send to caleb (or any other children who watch this video ) calebs mom should have acknowledged that his freind gave him a present, and it should be appreciated , not to disrespectfully throw it away in the trash can with no thought to the giver of the present.. smiddy.
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apostatethunder
Caleb’s friend is disposable, as much as Sparlock.