Posts by apostatethunder

Whatever they say, the reasons why some people may choose to leave the Catholic Church are very different from the reasons people leave the WT, and so is the manner.

Leaving the WT means being exposed to being judged, losing your good name and being excluded by your friends and family. You may also be forced to leave for just being “brazen” and taking your own decisions even in personal matters.

Leaving the Catholic Church you know the door will always be open for you to come back and that you will be able to be your own person if you decide to do so.

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What's the point?

by LKM in

hi, i'm not a jw, but am recently married to an disfellowshipped jw who does not believe in jw beliefs.

my stepson is being raised by his mother to be a jw.

ack!

apostatethunder

In my opinion, the whole point of this corporation is to discredit Christianity.

Making money at the same time is a bonus.

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Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

by 00DAD in

relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.

apostatethunder

I believe true love is unconditional, and it goes both ways.

I think Jesus words of loving your enemies are referring to people that act in ignorance, as he said about the Romans, “forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing“, but did not said so about the Pharisees.

Loving those who hate you is the equivalent of hating yourself.

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Why ? Gods Organization

by BlindersOff1 in

i've thought for yrs why do the jehovah's witnesses continue to call the faith "a organization", "a society" , "a corporation" and not one of the more socially acceptable terms.?????.

church.

faith.

apostatethunder

It makes perfect sense, no religious rituals other than rejecting Jesus‘ body once a year, the rest is quite secular and so is their god.

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How would YOU explain a Jehovah's Witness FEAR of Disfellowshipping to a reporter ?

by Balaamsass in

today i got contacted by a reporter.

he was incredulous that a parent would contact elders and not report a child rape to the police immediately.

i tried to put on my jw hat and explain the jw mindset to him..but it was like explaining color to a blind man.

apostatethunder

The fear of being disfellowshipped is the fear of being rejected and totally excluded by everyone that knew you from the time of your birth, including your family if you were a born in. As you were encouraged not to have bad associations (the rest of the world), it amounts to being rejected and excluded by your closest friends and/or even family members.

And that could come only from voicing your disagreement with a policy they enforce everyone to follow, or after somebody stalked you to find out who were you spending the night with, or after you decided to wear a cross pendant or decorating a Christmas Tree in your own house. A very high price to pay compared to the “crime”.

Nobody views their baptism as a commitment to a human corporation in any way but as the public expression of their private dedication to God. Adults don’t understand what they are getting into, children much less so.

They say the day of your baptism is the most important one in your life, even more than your wedding day, a child is in no condition of making such a big commitment. Neither an uninformed adult that doesn‘t know the implications of entering into a contract with the WT. Nowadays there is more information available, years ago it was not so much around.

Their baptism is a fraud as it has a different meaning for them than what it has for their followers.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Acts 2:17

by biometrics in

does anyone know how jehovah's witness explain away acts 2:17 is:.

acts 2:17 - in the last days, god says, i will pour out my spirit on all people.

your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.. they admit we are living in the 'last days', yet they don't seem to have young men with visions or old men dreaming dreams (at least not inspired ones).. .

apostatethunder

Were you ever a witness King Solomon?

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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

by SnowQueen in

i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

apostatethunder

True, there is no proof that the WT is Illuminate, but there is proof that they are damaging for the people that comes in contact with them.

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Is America Evil?

by Orthodox1 in

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friends

slavery... racisim... corporate greed... atom bombs used against civilians... 53 million aborted... a debt to be paid by generations yet to be born... an oubreak of child-offenders in public schools.... does anyone think america is evil?

or, does she have evil elements that ruin her brand as a great nation?.

**because i have been accused of all kinds of things, let me tell you my full agenda here: i am roman catholic.

apostatethunder

Well said, scotoma.