Posts by apostatethunder

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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?
by WildeLover in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.
apostatethunder

KS, you are comparing the WT with religions that offer help and comfort to their followers without using manipulation and control techniques to recruit and keep people in, and THAT’S problematic.
You also seem to have a bit of a problem understanding the figure of Jesus and what it is he stands for. Some of his contemporaries had the same problem with him.
In any case you certainly display a lot of zeal posting on this site, 1814 posts in two months is quite impressive even for a retired man. It looks more like a full time job.
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Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.
apostatethunder

Not everybody has the same level of intelligence and moral quality. Claiming everybody is the same doesn’t change the fact that we are not.
The Bible can not be compared with any other book, and its value is not determined by those who don’t get anything out of it.
Loving your neighbour as yourself is one of those things that you don’t need a great deal of intelligence to comprehend, hence the simplicity and superiority of the Christian message.
People that come selling their own flavour of “freedom“, tend to have their own agenda, and are usually just enslaving people in their own way.
This week’s WT study was about “True Freedom”, a lesson in hypocrisy for anyone that cares to take it.
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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?
by WildeLover in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.
apostatethunder

KS doesn’t miss a chance to compare the WT with Christianity or even with Jesus himself.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-02-2012 WT Study (TRUE FREEDOM)
by blondie in
1. jw
2. friends
true freedom.

law that belongs to.

what is true freedom?
apostatethunder

Obviously freedom means different things for different people, the WT sells “true“ freedom.
It’s difficult to be free when you are surrounded by people that want to impose you THEIR own view of what freedom is.
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Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.
apostatethunder

Jesus said “he that is not with me is against me“, people that were with him even though did not belong to his group of apostles had his approval. Mar 9:38-40
He also said he who saw him saw the Father.
The bottom line of the message of the Bible is quite simple. Ec 12:13, Mic 6:8
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Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.
apostatethunder

Terry, I remember a very good post you had a few months ago, about how the Bible is like a mirror and everyone gets out of it whatever he himself is.
To a certain extent it is so, but other things in the Bible are not open to interpretation, such as love God with your whole heart, soul, mind and heart and your neighbour as yourself.
What is open for interpretation is for example the meaning of Babylon the Great, and our conclusion will vary depending on our own capacity, and/or personal interests.
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A year has passed and guess what... I dont give a damn!
by TimothyT in
1. jw
2. friends
gosh... i cannot believe i have been disfellowshipped for over a year!

its so surreal.

because of my ingrained belief that the jw organisation is the one and only true religion, i often think about everything that has happened quite often.
apostatethunder

Cheers Tim.
Congratulations on your freedom.
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ABOUT TERRY
by Quentin in
1. jw
2. friends
terry was admitted to the hospital yesterday.

he has a severe case of cellulites which has affected his neck glands.

his face and neck are very swollen.
apostatethunder

Welcome back Terry, I am happy to hear you are doing well. Looking forward to read your posts.
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Message from a JW. Does this sound Christian?
by TimothyT in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
sent a message to a very good jw friend who must be about 20 now.

here is the message:.

"hiya.
apostatethunder

Timothy, the thing to remember here is that you are not dealing with an individual but with an organization.
If it was him alone he may have had a different reaction, it’s difficult to know as he is not a free individual.
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WTS: "Leave churches that change doctrines!"
by irondork in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the watchtower society openly acknowledges that constant doctrinal changes are causing many to abandon their religion.

oh irony, you're always there for me!.

[w75 6/1 millions have left the churches - should you?
apostatethunder

Whatever they say, the reasons why some people may choose to leave the Catholic Church are very different from the reasons people leave the WT, and so is the manner.
Leaving the WT means being exposed to being judged, losing your good name and being excluded by your friends and family. You may also be forced to leave for just being “brazen” and taking your own decisions even in personal matters.
Leaving the Catholic Church you know the door will always be open for you to come back and that you will be able to be your own person if you decide to do so.