Posts by apostatethunder

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Imagine A World Where Being "Gay" The Norm & Being "Straight" Would Be The Minority!

by Dis-Member in

imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!

[short film].. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.

apostatethunder

If this video shows something is that we are all affected by the type of society we live in.

Different societies promote different values.

I think any society that promotes using women as sexual objects and wombs for rent does not deserve the name civilized.

Ancient Greece was a democracy, that is if you were not a woman or a slave, so not quite.

In the WT the woman is the weaker vessel, that means, give her all the cleaning jobs, put a cloth on her head if she (God forbid) has to make a prayer or give a talk, and remind her that she needs to be extra-humble when presenting an objection/query/remark.

I don't know if there is a gay agenda or not, but women have a due place in the family and in society and those who don't respect that are abusing them, even if it is not so melodramatic as in this video.

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Letter From WTBTS Evidence of Mind Control Tactics

by Corvin in

the following is taken from ray franz's book, crisis of conscience, pages 341-344. this letter, sent out to all traveling representatives, circuit overseers, by the service department of the international headquarters, shows the society's demand for comformity no matter the cost to the rank and file.

jw lurkers: please read carefully.

the portion of the letter in blue is of particular interest, and franz's comments nails the governing body's intent.. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

apostatethunder

This policy of thought crimes explains why there is so much hypocrisy in this organization.

I find disturbing that so far nobody has seriously examined what is behind this cult. It is not normal trying to invade other people's private lives, much less their thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIBX5RrG4Q

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Hidden Meanings of the Bible: It's All About the Mind

by ProdigalSon in

back in bible times, the common literary style was in parables, metaphors, and allegories.

the reason for this is that the spiritual truths they were trying to convey are too abstract and difficult to express in literal terms.

the bible itself says that not a word jesus spoke was literal:.

apostatethunder

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why is the org acting worried?

by Crazyguy in

the latest statistics from the year book seems to indicated that no great increase of leavers, so why is the org seem to be acting like thier worried?

more talks about apostates, more asking for money, more talks about loyalty, etc.

what's up?.

apostatethunder

By sneakely taking god's place in their literature and Bible interpretation, this particular cult has a negative effect in people's sense of spirituality and transcendence.

One of the main differences with other mainstream religions is that the WT does not promote real virtue, as drones are never particularly nice people, and the borg main goal is manipulation, control, real estate and who knows what political agenda.

They have no remote understanding of concepts like grace, love and justice that are essential in Christianity.

Christian religions don't need obscure rituals and strange doctrines to keep their members loyal; instead they tend to promote decency, spiritual transcendence, and a more humane society.

Darwinism produces apes, and not everybody enjoys living under the rule of apes.

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Who is easier to indoctrinate, men or women?

by kneehighmiah in

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from purely anecdotal evidence, i believe women are more indoctrinated on average.

i can openly disagree with the governing body with men and it results in a discussion however, most women i've talked to have immediately shut me down by ending the conversation.

the only person currently shunning me is a woman.

apostatethunder

I think Christianity only became less attractive to men the moment secret societies appeared in the scene, before that Christianity was very much a male religion. Let the woman learn in silence....

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Who is easier to indoctrinate, men or women?

by kneehighmiah in

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from purely anecdotal evidence, i believe women are more indoctrinated on average.

i can openly disagree with the governing body with men and it results in a discussion however, most women i've talked to have immediately shut me down by ending the conversation.

the only person currently shunning me is a woman.

apostatethunder

It appears women are easier to indoctrinate, but only because a lot of men prefer to join secret societies rather than organized religion.

Nobody really knows what they believe, but since the french revolution and during the 20th Century those societies have been far more fanatic and destructive than any known religion.

A number of men join them seeking to gain status or power over others, even if most of them achieve only a small measure of it.

That seems to be enough to keep them happy in chains.

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why is the org acting worried?

by Crazyguy in

the latest statistics from the year book seems to indicated that no great increase of leavers, so why is the org seem to be acting like thier worried?

more talks about apostates, more asking for money, more talks about loyalty, etc.

what's up?.

apostatethunder

I think they realized that some witnesses are rebelling in their own little ways: gambling, disrespecting their husbands, smiling at disfellowshipped ones, etc.

It's room for hope though a very small one and they intend to close it.

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"Is my life now more meaningful, and am I happier?"

by Julia Orwell in

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so the question is posed in this week's watchtower study at our former cult's houses of indoctrination.

i should like to answer it, and i should like to hear your answers too.. the question is in two parts, and i shall address each one in turn.. q. is my life more meaningful?.

my life is more meaningful.

apostatethunder

Is my life now more meaningful and am I happier since I am free from schackles?

What type of question is this?

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They won freedom of speech, while steeling mine!

by BackSlider in

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so oftin i recall being excited about all the cases that were won in the name of jehovah.

i would talk with my dad and ask him how could it be possible that the supreme court judges haven't become witnesses.

it made no sense to me, that these men and women were not moved by all the wins that the organization was piling up.

apostatethunder

If JWS ever became a majority, society would become like the movie "I am legend" for the ones that didn't agree with them. Zombies everywhere!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewpYq9rgg3w

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WT ain't going out of business.

by joe134cd in

i've heard this said in other posts, so now i'm going to combine it in one post.. the $28 million awarded to conti is only drop in the bucket for what they are worth.. there would have to be 100 s of successful sex abuse law suites before they would feel it.

quite frankly i don't reckon there would be enough with the right circumstances to have a successful case against wt.

having a dozen or so cases isn't going to break the bank.

apostatethunder

It seems that in over a century, everybody that had dealings with these scumbags wishes they never had.

They are very sneaky, but they wouldn't be able to keep the business going if the media exposed them for what they really are about.

For some reason that has never happened.