recently i posted about a new short movie (14' min) about a jehovah's witness comming up.
because people on this site supported the movie i will keep everybody up-todate.. soon there will be a big world cinema festival in canada for wich the movie is selected.
(so you canadians take a look ;) ) as soon as it is official i will lett you know.. meanwhile take a look at the site, and the trailer:.
Hi There,
Recently I posted about a new short movie (14' min) about a Jehovah's witness comming up. Because people on this site supported the movie I will keep everybody up-todate.
Soon there will be a big world cinema Festival in Canada for wich the movie is selected. (so you canadians take a look ;) ) As soon as it is official I will lett you know.
Meanwhile take a look at the site, and the trailer:
http://www.flandersimage.com/browse-films/detail/name-of-the-fathers
Cheers,
T
take a glimps at my new short movie.. https://vimeo.com/45159616.
if by accident i didnt portray things as accurate as in real life, i would like to state the it is rather a summon of my expiriences, mixed with reality, and artistic freedom.
the overal story is rather close to real life.. cheers,.
For the people who like to click.
take a glimps at my new short movie.. https://vimeo.com/45159616.
if by accident i didnt portray things as accurate as in real life, i would like to state the it is rather a summon of my expiriences, mixed with reality, and artistic freedom.
the overal story is rather close to real life.. cheers,.
Take a glimps at my new short movie.
If by accident I didnt portray things as accurate as in real life, I would like to state the it is rather a summon of my expiriences, mixed with reality, and artistic freedom. The overal story is rather close to real life.
Cheers,
Timothy
hey fella's,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
THANKS NUGGET :D, thanks a lot, Ireally apreciate this.
Also foundsheep and DT.
Weird b.t.w. that I made this mayor mistake with the 'father son and holyghost's stuff :/.
But thanks guys, it helped a lot.
Cheers,
T
hey guy,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the help :).
The language of the movie is in Dutch/vlemisch, situated in Antwerp and Brussels.
This 'kingdom song' is composed by a dutch composer for this movie.
It doesnt exist in real life, cause it would be difficult with the copywright infringement.
You should hear it cause it sounds very kingdomlike :p. (took about a month to finalize it )
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The conversation with the elders is written quite harsh, but is played rather cold (rational).
I had a lot of talks with the elders here in belgium and holland, in which the content of the conversation was hars, but
brought in a rational, sometimes loving way. You should see the scene, it isnt that hars as it looks like.
_____
The name of the father the son and the hollyghost... I thought at my baptism a small decade ago they said it right before my baptism.
It would be a major mistake if they didnt...
I did answer the 2 main questions, but i thought that they also said these lines right before batism.
Anyway thanks for the respons!
Cheers,
Timothy
hey guy,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
:/, its 13 min, and already finished. The jury already looked at it and was extremely positive.
Anyway, why dont you take the time using on judging to translate? :)
hey fella's,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
Hey fella's,
Sorry that I already ask this the 3th time, but I need your help on short notice.
This text needs to be translated before tommorow morning 7 am (brussels time).
It's a taxt line out from my reccent short movie.
I can assure you the movie can start a debate in holland, and belgium.
For a submission to the local film organisation they need english subs, wich i can provide if i have a correct translation.
Can you guys correct this text inluding JW jargon. If you send me a mail you can get a sneak preview of the movie.
But I do need some help here! seriously...
Cheers,
T
{congregation is singing}
Song:
In your name, we’re singing.
About your strenght and dominion.
Yes our father, your name will be restored.
From house to house, is being spread,
the word of God, that gives us guidance.
Praise his name, yes show remorse, stay eternally loyal to Jehovah God.
______________________
{2 boys hanging on a bridge}
Thomas: Com’on, jump.
Jonathan: You go first, you’re the eldest.
Thomas: Are you scared or something? Com’on prove me you're not.
{Under the bridge, pretending the baptism}
Thomas: And then there'll come a brother, who will grab your arms.
Like this.
"In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost".
________________________________
{at dinner table, family together, praying}
THE FATHER:
Jehovah, our gentle heavenly father, we are delighted with the hope you provide.
We are glad with the path that you've shown us,
and like that we won’t be decieved in satans wicked world,
and be saved for the comming judgement.
Please help Thomas, he dedicated his life to you, support him with his dedication.
We are sincerely delighted about Jonathan's decision to get baptized.
He's putting his life in your hands.
We know he will have to endure trouble, will you take good care of him.
This pray we send up in the name of your son, Jezus Christ, Amen
_________________________________
{The mother is fixing the old suit of the shunned brother for Thomas}
THE MOTHER:
Well, Lucas was of course a bit more fleshy than you, you know.
Yes, this will do, no, wait, that's better, right?
_______________________
{Thomas visits his shunned brother in Brussels}
Phone: Lucas
THOMAS: Goodday to you sir, we would shortly like to talk about the hopeful promises the
bible gives us... Lucas hangs up the phone.
________________________
{Lucas is looking at a earring}
THOMAS: What are you doing?
LUCAS: Doesn’t it look good?
THOMAS: Com’ on, sit down.
_______________________
{Thomas is preparing to set the earring}
THOMAS: Jonathan is getting baptized.
You'll come?
You know, you can look from a distance.
LUCAS: Does dad know you are here?
THOMAS: Dad told me that you’re not doing well.
LUCAS: Com’ on, put in that earring.
{earring fixed}
________________________________
{In the car, in front of the parents house}
LUCAS: It was nice that you dropped by thomas,
I really do appreciate that.
But I won’t go to Jonathan's baptism.
You don’t have to think, Thomas, that you can solve everyth…
{Parents discover Thomas and his shunned brother}
______________________________
{parents try to convince Thomas to see the elders}
FATHER: Thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.
MOTHER: We have to leave Lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.
FATHER: Thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.
MOTHER: Thomas, please.
_______________________________
{Thomas is praying on his bed}
THOMAS: Jehovah Father, help me please, help me please, help me...
_______________
{Judicial committee}
ELDER1: Thomas?
Can you tell us why you ar here?
You’re not only doing much less preaching then before.
You are isolating yourself.
You are going the same path as your brother.
You understand you can’t frequent him anymore.
ELDER 2: To understand that, you must know that Jehovah completely doesn’t want you to
be with an apostate.
ELDER 3: Look up 1 kor 5:31 {finding text}: But now I am writing you not to be in the
companion of anyone, once called a brother, who is a fornicator or a greedy person
or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, and not even eat with such a man.
ELDER1: What does this text tells you?
THOMAS: But no, Lucas isn’t like that.
ELDER 3: Thomas, not only this text is handles about Lucas, Math 10:37 as well.
Would you read it for us?
One who has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worth me;
and one who has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worth me.
And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worth me.
ELDER 3: Are you worth Jezus? Do you have greater affection for Jehovah then for relatives?
...
ELDER1: Thomas?
{Thomas murmurs}
ELDER 2: But, you dedicated yourself to god, you've put your life in his hands.
ELDER1: Why else did you get baptized?
THOMAS: But I was 14.
ELDER 2: That's just 2 years ago, has so much changed?
ELDER1: If you don’t put Jehovah on/in ??? the first place in your life, we'll have to follow
Gods guidance strictly.
If you don’t show remorse, Thomas, We'll have to remove you from our congregation.
That’s not what you want, right?
THOMAS: No, off course not.
ELDER 2: Think of the things you put on the line for this.
Is Lucas so important to you, that you rather lose everything within this loving congregation?
Your bond with God, your parents, your hope for eternal life?
And Thomas, Think about Jonathan for a minute. You can’t attend his baptism if you are
ruled out.
ELDER1: Thomas, we ask this with the best intentions.
ELDER 3: Do you sincerely regret your behavior, and can you promise you won’t do it again?
THOMAS: I want to. But no. I don’t feel any remorse.
ELDER1: Then there's nothing left to do than to remove you from the real congregation of
God.
ELDER 2: If you do see your mistake Thomas, we hope you’ll find your way back to the
congregation.
--------------
{Thomas' elder brother is not at home anymore}
_________
{Baptism of his younger brother}
MOTHER: Jonathan? Jonathan? Come.
ELDER 3: Come here, your family is waiting.
MOTHER: Jonathan?
ELDER 1: In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost.
hey guy,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
Seriously , isnt there anyone who can help me out?
To make this movie a succes i need some help here :/.
I know there enough ex jw's who can translate this text in decend english, I do need some assistantce here :s.
Cheers,
T
hey guy,.
the father:.
father: thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.. mother: we have to leave lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.. father: thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.. mother: thomas, please.. _______________________________.
Hey Guy,
I realy need a good translation of the following text! :).
It need to be in the official JW language, like using the words wich arnt commonly used, exept in the conregations. (kingdom, shepperd, etc.)
Please help asap, its quite important.
Cheers,
Your ex brother ;) ,
T
{congregation is singing}
Song:
In your name, we’re singing.
About your strenght and dominion.
Yes our father, your name will be restored.
From house to house, is being spread,
the word of God, that gives us guidance.
Praise his name, yes show remorse, stay eternally loyal to Jehovah God.
______________________
{2 boys hanging on a bridge}
Thomas: Com’on, jump.
Jonathan: You go first, you’re the eldest.
Thomas: Are you scared or something? Com’on prove me you're not.
{Under the bridge, pretending the baptism}
Thomas: And then there'll come a brother, who will grab your arms.
Like this.
"In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost".
________________________________
{at dinner table, family together, praying}
THE FATHER:
Jehovah, our gentle heavenly father, we are delighted with the hope you provide.
We are glad with the path that you've shown us,
and like that we won’t be decieved in satans wicked world,
and be saved for the comming judgement.
Please help Thomas, he dedicated his life to you, support him with his dedication.
We are sincerely delighted about Jonathan's decision to get baptized.
He's putting his life in your hands.
We know he will have to endure trouble, will you take good care of him.
This pray we send up in the name of your son, Jezus Christ, Amen
_________________________________
{The mother is fixing the old suit of the shunned brother for Thomas}
THE MOTHER:
Well, Lucas was of course a bit more fleshy than you, you know.
Yes, this will do, no, wait, that's better, right?
_______________________
{Thomas visits his shunned brother in Brussels}
Phone: Lucas
THOMAS: Goodday to you sir, we would shortly like to talk about the hopeful promises the
bible gives us... Lucas hangs up the phone.
________________________
{Lucas is looking at a earring}
THOMAS: What are you doing?
LUCAS: Doesn’t it look good?
THOMAS: Com’ on, sit down.
_______________________
{Thomas is preparing to set the earring}
THOMAS: Jonathan is getting baptized.
You'll come?
You know, you can look from a distance.
LUCAS: Does dad know you are here?
THOMAS: Dad told me that you’re not doing well.
LUCAS: Com’ on, put in that earring.
{earring fixed}
________________________________
{In the car, in front of the parents house}
LUCAS: It was nice that you dropped by thomas,
I really do appreciate that.
But I won’t go to Jonathan's baptism.
You don’t have to think, Thomas, that you can solve everyth…
{Parents discover Thomas and his shunned brother}
______________________________
{parents try to convince Thomas to see the elders}
FATHER: Thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.
MOTHER: We have to leave Lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.
FATHER: Thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.
MOTHER: Thomas, please.
_______________________________
{Thomas is praying on his bed}
THOMAS: Jehovah Father, help me please, help me please, help me...
_______________
{Judicial committee}
ELDER1: Thomas?
Can you tell us why you ar here?
You’re not only doing much less preaching then before.
You are isolating yourself.
You are going the same path as your brother.
You understand you can’t frequent him anymore.
ELDER 2: To understand that, you must know that Jehovah completely doesn’t want you to
be with an apostate.
ELDER 3: Look up 1 kor 5:31 {finding text}: But now I am writing you not to be in the
companion of anyone, once called a brother, who is a fornicator or a greedy person
or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, and not even eat with such a man.
ELDER1: What does this text tells you?
THOMAS: But no, Lucas isn’t like that.
ELDER 3: Thomas, not only this text is handles about Lucas, Math 10:37 as well.
Would you read it for us?
One who has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worth me;
and one who has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worth me.
And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worth me.
ELDER 3: Are you worth Jezus? Do you have greater affection for Jehovah then for relatives?
...
ELDER1: Thomas?
{Thomas murmurs}
ELDER 2: But, you dedicated yourself to god, you've put your life in his hands.
ELDER1: Why else did you get baptized?
THOMAS: But I was 14.
ELDER 2: That's just 2 years ago, has so much changed?
ELDER1: If you don’t put Jehovah on/in ??? the first place in your life, we'll have to follow
Gods guidance strictly.
If you don’t show remorse, Thomas, We'll have to remove you from our congregation.
That’s not what you want, right?
THOMAS: No, off course not.
ELDER 2: Think of the things you put on the line for this.
Is Lucas so important to you, that you rather lose everything within this loving congregation?
Your bond with God, your parents, your hope for eternal life?
And Thomas, Think about Jonathan for a minute. You can’t attend his baptism if you are
ruled out.
ELDER1: Thomas, we ask this with the best intentions.
ELDER 3: Do you sincerely regret your behavior, and can you promise you won’t do it again?
THOMAS: I want to. But no. I don’t feel any remorse.
ELDER1: Then there's nothing left to do than to remove you from the real congregation of
God.
ELDER 2: If you do see your mistake Thomas, we hope you’ll find your way back to the
congregation.
--------------
{Thomas' elder brother is not at home anymore}
_________
{Baptism of his younger brother}
MOTHER: Jonathan? Jonathan? Come.
ELDER 3: Come here, your family is waiting.
MOTHER: Jonathan?
ELDER 1: In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost.
dear fellow members,.
after hard labouring and a huge pile of creative and artistic (philosophical) deccisions, i finaly finished a 13 min short movie.. at the filmschool (wich i'm attending) the jurry was impressed by story (and movie in general).. .
this short movie tells the story of thomas, who has to chose between being loyal to the congregation, or his elder (shunned) brother.. it mainly foccuses on this feeling we might all had, that the discreet slafe, stands between god and man, and is messing up familly relations.. (math 10:37).. .
Oke so this is a rough/fast translation. If you can help find the right words and structure, I'll be vere glad.
Dont feel afraid to completely alter senteces, as long as they tell the same (but better).
Thank you all!
Cheers,
Timothy
{congregation is singing}
Song:
We will sing, in your name, about your strenght and rullership, yes our father,
your name will be restored.From house to house, is being preached,
the word of god, that gives us guidance.
Praise his name, yes show remorse, stay eternaly faithfull to god.
______________________
{2 boys hanging on a bridge}
Thomas: Common, jump.
Jonathan: You go first, your the eldest.
Thomas: Are you scared or something? Common prove me you'r not.
{Under the bridge, playing batism}
Thomas: And then there'll come a brother, who will grab your arms.
"In the name of the father, the son, and the holly ghost".
________________________________
{at dinner table, familly together, praying}
THE FATHER:
Jehovah, our gentle heavenly father, we are delighted with the hope you provide.
We are glad with the path that you've shown,
so that we wont be decieved in satans wicked world,
and be safed for the comming judgement.
Please help thomas, he dedicated his life to you, support him with his dedication.
We are sincir delighted about Jonathan's decission to gett baptized.
He's (putting his life in your hands).
We know he will have to endure trouble, will you take good care of him.
This pray we send up in the naam of your son, Jezus christ, Amen
_________________________________
{The mother is fixing the old suit of the shunned brother for Thomas}
THE MOTHER:
Well, Lucas was ofcourse a bit bigger (more like fat, or strongly build) than you, you know.
Yes, this will do, wait, that's better, right?
(Needs to be more motherlike)
_______________________
{THomas vissits his shunned brother in brussels}
Phone: Lucas
THOMAS: Goodday to you sir, we would shortly like to talk about the hopefull promises
that the bible contains... Lucas hangs up the phone.
________________________
{Lucas is looking at a earing}
THOMAS: What are you doing?
LUCAS: doesnt it look good?
THOMAS: Common sit down.
_______________________
{Thomas is preparing to set the earing}
THOMAS: Jonathan is getting baptized.
You'll come?
You know, you can look from a distance.
LUCAS: Does our father know's you are here?
THOMAS: Dad told me that you are not doing so wel.
LUCAS: Common, put in that earing.
{earing fixed}
________________________________
{In the car, in front of the parrents house}
LUCAS: It was fun that you dropped by thomas,
I can apreciate that.
But I wont go to Jonathan's baptism.
You dont have to think, thomas, that you can solve thi...
{Parrents discovers Thomas and his shunned brother}
______________________________
{parrents try to convince thomas to see the elders}
FATHER: Thomas, you have to understand god's guidance.
MOTHER: We have to leave Lucas behind, we might lose our hope ourself.
FATHER: Thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.
MOTHER: Thomas please.
_______________________________
{Thomas is praying on his bed}
THOMAS: Jehovah father, help me please, help me pleas, help me...
_______________
{Judicial comittie}
ELDER1: Thomas?
Can you tell us why you ar here?
Not only are you making less hours in the field service (<--- help)
You are withdrawwing yourself.
You are following the same path, as your brother.
You do understand that you cant mix in company with him.
ELDER 2: To understand that, you'll have to know that Jehovah strictly does not want you to be with him.
ELDER 3: Lookup 1 kor 5:31 {finding text}: But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing
in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person
or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner,
not even eating with such a man.
ELDER1: What does this text tells you?
THOMAS: But no, Lucas is not like that.
ELDER 3: THomas, not only this text is talking about Lucas, but also Math 10:37~.
Would you read it for us?
He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me;
and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.
And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me.
ELDER 3: Are you worthy of Jesus? Do you have greater affection for Jehovah then for relatives?
...
ELDER1: Thomas?
{Thomas mumbles}
ELDER 2: But, you dedicated yourself to god, you've put you life in his hands.
ELDER1: Why else did you get baptized?
THOMAS: But I was 14.
ELDER 2: That's just 2 years ago, Did there chanched so much?
ELDER1: If you dont put Jehovah on the first place inyour life, we'll have to follow gods guidance,
If you dont show remorse, Thomas, We'll have to remove you from our congregation.
Thas not what you want right?
THOMAS: No, offcourse not.
ELDER 2: Think of the things you put on the line for this.
Is lucas so important to you, that you rather lose everything within this loving congregation?
Your relationship/bond with god, your parrents, your hope on eternal life?
And Thomas, Think about Jonathan for a minute. You cant attend his baptism if you are excumnicated.
ELDER1: Thomas, we ask this with the best intentions.
ELDER 3: Do you sincirly regret your behaviour, and can you promise not to do it again?
THOMAS: I want to. But No. I dont feel remorse.
ELDER1: Then there's nothing left to do then to remove you from the truthfull congregation of god.
ELDER 2: If you do see your mistake Thomas, we hope you find your way back to the congregation.
--------------
{Thomas' elder brother is not at home anymore}
_________
{Baptism of his younger brother}
MOTHER: Jonathan? Jonathan? come.
ELDER 3: Come your familly is waiting.
MOTHER: Jonathan?
ELDER 1: In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost.
