Posts by truthlover123

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Reasons for doubting.

by New day in

somebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.

i am in a similar position.

i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.

truthlover123

Your wife is the key to you missing meetings... many on board have faded just by implying they are depressed, having so many pressures on them its hard to get ot the meetings and especially if the mate is sick.. you need to be there to assist in anyway you can..

I am sure, as an ex elder you have heard this yourself in conversations with those who are not regular meeting attenders - and as you know, these folks were talked about in the elders meetings as to their spirituality, not fully appreciating these folks saw the same thing you are now seeing for yourself..

Note that those who do fade, or those still in don't leave--( or many don't) --Jehovah... they are not Apostates if they don't believe the party line anymore.. and to saddle people with this term does them harm - as you will find out, if you haven't already... we became witnesses because we thought it was the truth, stayed for years, the truth today is not like it was even 10 year ago.."". those now living WILL die"", not " those now living will never die", which they changed to "those now living MAY never die" another eye opener- in the WT several years ago.

The word generation now known as contemporaries - (where they have made changes to support the Biblical wording) what a disgrace to the Bible where it does say time after time the word(s) "Generation" and Generation after generation" -- not "contemporary after a generation.....

You know too the private and confidential memos that go to the COBOE and elders to be discussed by the body but not to be read to the congregation i.e. increased funds to cover worldwide building work - page 2 - that after a period of time if the congregations was not making their resolution, the body would once again ask the congregation to submit new amounts to be covered. What did you think of that money grab?

When I came into the truth (or thought it was) the thing was that only contributions would cover costs -- no money would be asked of the congregation like the religions do!! Hasn't that changed!! and the WTBTS went to court years ago when the contributions were stopped to back an evangelist TV preacher.... Now its resolution after resolution -( If you don't put your hand up to agree, all eyes are upon you- guilt trip!).....and monies to be taken from the congregations and IF they need, it they can get it back!! What's chances.... WW building has been stopped.. Co's are on the hook if the elders make congregation mistakes...now with the increased spotlight on child abuse, over 1000 pedos in Australia (Royal Commission report on line from the court) may be investigated and victims to be paid... major cases found the WTBTS liable for payment in the US recently for millions...Britain is a hot bed for JW sexual predators (they are supposed to be setting up their own Commission) ..... and you wonder where money is going??

Rutherford said when the money stops, the preaching work will stop ... Jehovah will provide til then - apparently it is stopping.. they are taking money out of all the congregations accounts...leaving enough for 1 -2 months hall expenses ..

It is indeed a troublesome time for the society....

You should take your time and back out slowly

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Any "Booted Bethelites" or "Sacked Special Pioneers" coming to your hall?

by freddo in

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anyone coming to a hall near you?

or your hall?

or your circuit?

truthlover123

So far one couple - Bethelites --got their Cdn walking orders -- no job, no money, looking for a place to stay --

no furniture -- no Cdn pension plan fr govt, nothing!!! and they are in late 50's... what's chances????

Of course, there is free medical care...

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One reason behind the slow steady decline of JWs

by AllTimeJeff in

hello first of all to those that remember me.

i'm doing well, 10 years since my missionary trip to cameroon.

i've met a couple of goals.

truthlover123

Don't know if you noticed any CO lately, they are sporting the marketing lapel pin of JW.ORG-- I would love to find out who exactly, is behind all this marketing strategy.. not that I could do anything about it other than say they sold their "souls" to a WORLDLY company... and are now part of the world they condemned only a few years ago.... The marketing firm does not understand apparently, what turns people on in this organization... society is floundering, treading water, soon to sink - much like Peter who lost his faith when he tried to walk on water.....

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Who would you vote for Today?

by James Mixon in

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d. trump or h. clinton and why.. i would vote for gun slinging trump..

truthlover123

Have to say the interview tonight on 2020 with the Trump family was very eye opening... he seems to be level headed, driven family man - his family is nice -- the older children were not spoiled - he made time for them when they needed him, even at 5 on the phone, he would stop the board meetings to talk with the kids,,they had to work from ground floor up in the company and earn their way, no drugs, all university educated, well spoken, love their father and the grand kids were the sweetest and they loved him... so to be thought of so highly by your family, there is no amount of money you can put on that success.... even though he has been married three times, he made them all work, all his wives are rich, have their own businesses, and he always supported and pushed the older kids.... who can say what works and what doesn't but he seems to have a "gift" for knowing how to do it.... wish I did with my kid and family....

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Old Books and Magazines

by twice shy in

it's been a minute since i was here.

question?

what to do with old books and magazines?

truthlover123

Take off the covers, put the inside pages in the paper recycle along with the covers -- and if you canèt do it call the local recycler, they may do it there -- better that than filling up the landfills

OR

Woodstove burning material....

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If Donald Trump becomes President, who will be on his Cabinet

by RubaDub in

just some thoughts if trump becomes president.. there are 15 cabinet positions/advisors currently.

they are the secretaries of:.

agriculture.

truthlover123

One position could go to the Governor of New Mexico -- a smart, legally trained lady who has been dealing with issues at the border for 15 years--- a woman who can give perspective on female issues - border issues - equality wage issues

In the US, a woman earns only 65% of what a male earns in the same position but in all places Rwanda -- a woman earns 88% of what a man earns doing the same job.........I think the US and Canada can do better than Rwanda...

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70 inch t.v.'s on stage

by dbq407 in

so the other night we had a resolution to purchase two 70 inch t.v.

's to hang on either side of the stage.

and also a smaller t.v.

truthlover123

If the hall doesn't use the money for something, its going to mama!!!

AND:

Toes is right -- there are so many out there having problems and struggling to keep their head afloat -- use the money for those who need it... not those who live the high life without a care in NY state... 5 locations up there all with the best of everything

OR maybe now, they are going to have to clean their own rooms and make their own meals or call a worldly housekeeping service or chef extraordinaire to make ther meals!!! Makes me sick!

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Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

by Gorbatchov in

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i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

the lett effect?

truthlover123

Cant, cant, cant watch Lett - it was noticeable at the assembly that I was not watching the screen and some mentioned it - I told them I just cant stand to watch his face and expressions, they laughed and thought he was so funny.... right off the farm I say.. the best they can do is let them in front of the camera for the world to see, better for them to have remained anonymous - being mysterious was their best bet... for some strange reason, the ivory tower is the place where gods live, but the tv - iPhone & tablet or computer screen is where the money reapers are

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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

by DarioKehl in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

truthlover123

Is this instruction related to ARC? There was heavy fire in Australia especially when they went back several years re a certain guy who was a known child molester...they had the records there, I thought the UK was going to set up their own Royal Commission in the future? and if so, material from years past would put the nail in their coffin in the UK

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Sign Out

by truthlover123 in

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when i click on sign out - my avatar stays put.. i cannot sign out - is there a reason for this?

.

thanks.

truthlover123

When I click on sign out - my avatar stays put.. I cannot sign out - is there a reason for this?

Thanks