Posts by truthlover123

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Footage from Recently Converted Kingdom Hall to a Mosque

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/kjqwfeuhpji?si=6ahbituygdyiq3za.

when jehovah’s witnesses dedicate their kingdom halls, they often refer to the example of solomon dedicating the temple in jerusalem.

it’s a solemn moment.

JWhub

by Mikejw in

i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

truthlover123

Unfortunately Atlantis is still in a deep coma. Petra has put some information on here within the past week, along with Blondie. Check them out

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My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

by ExCircuitOverseer in

jw
friends

here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

i had actually become a circuit overseer!

truthlover123

If only, if only we had that insight before we got caught in the hype. All the best to you and your family.

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They are running out of people to do their stuff.

by liam in

this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

so it’s the current new light!.

what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

several years ago, and I believe its in the SFOG book, a newly baptized male, with good "qualifications" i.e. service, hall cleaning, volunteering- can work hard and become a ms, and within 1 year, an elder! Now isn't that great! A 20,21 y.o. giving advice to a life long person/ publisher, ( not a member anymore remember), in the congregation and that new mini elder is not qualified to give spiritual or emotional, or mental advice to anyone! This is the same crap they want women to believe that even if a male "child" of 15, 16, 17 is newly baptized, he has more authority in a car group or group of sisters just because he is a male. Sure, give him the territory card so he can direct the work. I can just see the older elders patting him on the back, giving him encouragement but not helping the older sister who lives alone, sitting in the back row, or the older brother needing some help around his house. Oh the love.

Joke!

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

truthlover123

Is the subject creator or christmas?

All things were created by him - that's scriptural.

His birth? - check out when Herod the Great ruled and died. Jesus, according to scripture was born in Herods time, making Herods death the prime time to look at Jesus age at that time.

Also, since 40 seems to be the magical number in scripture, The org says Jesus died at 33 years of age, seeming that he supposedly began his ministry at age 30 and died three years later, however, allowing that Herod wanted the babies two year of age and under killed, then died about 4 BCE, makes Jesus birth back to 6 or 7 bce ( making him 40 when he died) and as the shepherds were still in the fields, it definitely was not the "december" of the year.

Still does not answer the question of his birth --although he did say in Luke to celebrate his death, so it falls to that of the thought that IF Jesus thought his birth was important, he would have said so. Everything else is conjecture.

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

truthlover123

When looking at Hebrews, God is speaking to A Son- Jesus. Not "sons of God". This is specific to Jesus vs an angel. Heb 1:2-8 - these verses clearly define The One. Jesus.

Pete: whomever he may be thinking of, we can only work on what is written. I am not struggling as you say, I believe it's very clear. Jesus and Michael are not the same, but thanks for that info.

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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

by moomanchu in

a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

truthlover123

Should be like two people who want everyone else to go to war but themselves. Put them in a ring and let the two fight it out, the winner is crowned! No one gets hurt or sullied. This race is pitiful, the worst of rhetoric, dumb, dumb!

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

truthlover123

To which one of the angels did he ( God ) call son? ( Hebrews 1:5) None- Michael is an ARCH ANGEL, like Gabriel- apparently, there were seven? Only Jesus was called son - he sits on God's right hand mentioned several times in scripture.

Re Jude vs 9- Michael the archangel disputing with Satan, and expanding on Strikers point- Jesus died in 33 ce- yet Jude, written years after Jesus' death, is saying Michael, (not Jesus way back when), disputed with Satan. If Jude understood Michael and Jesus were the same, would he not have referenced that important point? Wasn't Jude the brother of James - both Jesus half brothers who would know?

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Loss of a Jehovah’s Witness who I considered a friend

by Fallen_Winter in

jw
friends

i have known a jehovah’s witness for approximately 15 years and i have considered her a friend although i know that jehovah’s witnesses cannot have friends who are not jehovah’s witnesses.

approximately two years ago, i was going through a very difficult time and i asked my friend if we could have bible study.

she said yes and we have been studying the bible since.

truthlover123

Unfortunately, being a "friend", visiting, helping, driving to meetings, studying- is what is done to "groom" a person to accept the "truth". The closeness is part of bringing a person into the hall, getting them baptized, maybe being a friend for a year or two, working with them out in service then things change. The love bombing you received when you first came to a meeting as a "person of the world" was another tactic to show "love to you. This fades over time and you find you are on your own, unless you go pioneering.- the ultimate goal for a single person - using your time and money and vehicle voluntarily to find more "friends"- unless of course,, you want to go to bethel to work as a volunteer, and sign a no monies contract.

You are wise to step back and take a hard look- this is a bait and switch deal - if you do anything wrong - once baptized, you can be disfellowshipped and then no one will speak with you until you "repent" and come back to the meetings.

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NEW LEAKED ANNUAL MEETING VIDEO :KENNETH COOK :THE DISFELLOSHIPPING IS NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/6ga9v7ffrwk?si=0lor5qquapmq8ck4.

what you are about to watch is another leaked instalment from the recent annual meeting delivered by kenneth cook with the theme "help to tear down and build up" and highlights tge new take o disfellowshipping that will from now concentrate on major wrongdoing whereas minor wrongdoing will be dealt with kind and love.so the watchtower's at it again, rewriting the narrative like an old tv show that conveniently forgets a character's past.

for decades, the organization has been the ultimate gatekeeper, quick to kick out members for even minor missteps—let's not forget how jehovah's witnesses have had to grovel and practically beg to be reinstated.

truthlover123

Same day, different meanings to fool the courts - lawyers will really have to dig into this