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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  There is a fear factor in the "truth" - you cannot question, you cannot swerve too far from commenting at meetings now - most just re hash the paragraph that was already read.... I believe many are dis heartened, received a call last weekend from a very knowledgeable brother... many doubts and although I listened I did not tell him that I had the same thoughts as him.... you never know who you are speaking with and if they can turn on you to the elders to make a name for themselves....and although I am now doubting, I am not ready to go full fledge out....

  I too, have missed meetings and low in service but not one elder or MS has checked to see what was going on.....I personally don't care anymore and know that the "love" that I once had is gone.... I guess theirs is as well...
  
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  Watchtower/Bethelite Volunteers and US Self Employment or FICA Tax?

  by EnlightenedEphesian in

  1. watchtower
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  with so many aging bethelites being "laid off" after years of volunteer service, what hope do they have of collecting any social security retirement?

  i ask because i recently learned that my mother will not receive any government retirement benefits because she did not work enough to collect the 40 credits required.

  this got me to thinking about bethel volunteers.

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  I was around pre 1975 when rumors were running wild about the end... so much so that people in this area quit their jobs, sold property and furniture, got ready for it all to end, leaving behind government secure employment in post office and coast guard & sold their businesses -- people had been brainwashed for at least three years prior to 75 and many, many folks did not have savings, investments, etc.

  Post 1975 - that was it!! We both obtained full time jobs with medical, pension, able to invest in pension plans, etc. to at least secure as much as we could.. and today without that we would be on assistance.... yet the society still maintains its the end soon... we can only look at what is happening in the world around us, terrible news -- but who knows when, I don't anymore....Bethelites - congregations are so into believing the motor mouths in the broadcasting videos they do not have some sort of monies socked away.... up to their ears in debt, but hey!! they won't have to pay it back I guess if something happens in their lifetime...maybe that is their outlooks..
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  Two (circumstantial) lines of evidence for the real motivation behind the Russian lobbying?

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. in bro sandersons latest video (in which he shows a very impressive skill with russian) he mentions two likely results of the imminent russian ban: the liquidation of the branch office and its assets, and the individual brothers capacity to worship freely.

  no prizes for guessing which one gets mentioned first!.

  2. why have the gb never attempted in the past, and are not interested in attempting now, such a letter writing campaign in other communist countries where the work is under similar restrictions, like china, or vietnam?

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  Don't know if this was mentioned, but with all the technology today, and with worldwide participation in the letter writing, I would assume names and locations of all individuals may be placed on a list??? With Russia wanting to take in other countries, would that not be a boon to their locating everyone they wanted too? When the previous letter writing campaigns took place, there was not any way tracking would have taken place, today life is not private anymore for anyone..
  
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  YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.

  but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.

  i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.

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  No Zumba either --

  Hey... didn't the WTBTS ( or isn't) join the UNGO?? Did they have to take and oath when they did?
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  Is it just me??? or WHAT, our latest Book study book Imitate their Faith

  by dugout in

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  2. friends

  is it just me or as my wife says it doesn't matter.

  just curious.

  need your thoughts please.

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  They use all kinds of "buzz" words - evidently, likely, it is thought, probably, it is understood, and on and on..... yet ANY comments made at meetings do not pick up these words - they state them as fact, never indicating it is only a presumed wording...

  Its in every WT or Awake or whatever... take a look at the new Jesus book - all white that I can see as well. Page 34 - all apostles were white -- no trace of brown or black.... these folks were Jewish - some would have been darker that others, even living in the hot areas of the world as they were would indicate they would darken down -- better then me trying to get a tan under the tanning bed light....
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  Feeling rejected

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

  however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

  in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

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  I also meant to mention, you do have to be thick skinned if you want to get along, as those who hurt you are to be your brothers and sisters and you really have to be forgiving and loving and accept apologies or try to forget they have hurt you. They go on their merry way and probably will never change but Hey!! aren't we all imperfect?? (sarcastic remark)
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  Feeling rejected

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

  however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

  in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

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  The sister is probably mad at you because you are getting a good education to be a medical professional, hence making more money than her kids, more security pension wise, better furniture, better self esteem than what her children are going to obtain as they are being told to pioneer and get a part time low end job to support themselves in these "last days"---- and you are a shining example of the opposite - so she has some axe to grind against you.

  There will always be those types in the congregations - the love that is mentioned is apparently a choice for those who feel entitled to discredit others.. Tread carefully. This is from someone who is in a congregation. They will smile, pat you on the back, etc. but you are a single person - if a male you will get a wife, if a female you will search for a JW husband who can tell you what to do as he will be your head- male JWS are in short supply.

  You appear very spiritual, this is a good thing, however, please do some fact checking about the Australian Royal Commission report that is on the Internet. Read it very objectively. You will gain some insight as to what you are getting into. But on the other hand, this may be what you want and if so, it definitely is your choice to make.
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  Why didn't Jehovah know the flood wouldn't work?

  by OverlappingGeneralizations in

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  this has been something that is bugging me lately-.

  jehovah is all knowing.

  he knows that to do away with evil, he has to do away with satan.

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  Satan was still walking around in heaven in the book of Job and entered right into the company of Jehovah and the angels-- how many years was that after the flood?
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  3 More BOEs just arrived!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  delete if already posted.. .

  .. re: 2016 convention invitations .

  .. re: 2016 conventionslocal needs item .

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  Question - its says to attach your congregation number to obtain information on the site.. can they track you on that sight by your IP address???

  With a congregation number they know or narrow the location and IP address can be checked, can it not?

  Thanks

  TL123
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  What happened with Dr. Applewhite's supplementary report? Mistery solved

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  542 on 16 august 2015, dr applewhite wrote to the legal representative of watchtower.

  australia and advised that she was unable to prepare a supplementary statement due.

  to other commitments.

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  thought she did quite well - as a witness against the society!! Maybe that was her plan all along...