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  Question? How Many Hours of Field Service Does it Take

  by new boy in

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  currently, to create one new jehovah's witness convert?.

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  truthlover123

  If you look at countries were a ban is on, Muslim countries, -(growing at a rate of 32%)

  you are looking at 35% of earths population ( estimate )that has not "heard" of Jw's. This is not a world wide preaching work- impossible! So they upbuild the congregations by calling it a name that is a MISNOMER.

  According to PEW Research 2017 - earth population was 7.7 billion - deducting Russia, China, NK, Phillipines, just some of banned areas we see 3.1 billion where bans are occurring, ( there are more) leaving a total that receive the" good news" of 2.8 billion. For the WTBTS to say the good news is a worldwide work and needs money to continue is incorrect. For there to be ONLY 281,744 baptized in 2017 (and mostly born in at a tender age) with 8.5 million ?? doing the work, does not make sense.
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  Lets face it. Baptism is a lie.

  by nowawake14 in

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  i remember when i did.

  i was in hs when that happened.

  i wasn't even awake yet.

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  When I was baptized, the 2nd question was asked was belief in the father, the son and the holy spirit. Now, it is the father, the son and Gods directed spirit ORGANIZATION-- this is NOT what scripture is all about. So does that make my baptism wrong? Can I get a scriptural divorce? Does it make the new question invalid? I would definitely say "Yes"-- the society sucks new ones into a system of massive fraud. The Amway business model, bring in the new ones to sell the product and build a money train.
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  ''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019

  by Beth Sarim in

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  i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

  anybody heard of this!!

  just a heads-up!

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  truthlover123

  No letter read yet.. And this is the 17th. However, some news in Canada that halls are being sold and congregations being combined/cut starting from the west to the east... Seeing that Montreal has swallowed up 16 congregations, haven't heard how many were out west, but if anyone has numbers for BC, Sask, Manitoba, Alberta please make a note so a track can be kept.
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  What holidays are they talking about?

  by carla in

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  in the elders manual under apostasy,.

  "1) celebrating false religious holidays: (ex.

  32:4-6; jer.

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  That is called "straining the gnat" I believe..... so many congregations have different ideas.. one sister I was speaking about said the society said people worship the Christmas tree. Previously I was in the world and did not worship the "tree".. It was pretty, that was it. and she argued that is the stand the society took, I told her it was wrong - no worship of the tree was in my house. She was adamant, but so was I - quiet times.
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  When The Truth - is Not -The Truth

  by Esau in

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  is 607bc being a made up, “plug in” date the only thing that invalidates 1914 from being christ’s time of kingly rein?.

  i mean, screw the math & bs formulas.

  can 1914 simply work as a starting date for “the last days” simply by the events that occurred??

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  Neb attacked the first time 18-20 years previously to the "downfall of Jerusalem" the second time he attacked in C607 BCE. Then there was a third attack so which date do they really quote - 607!

  Check out Jeremiah 52:26-30 during the time of Neb's rule in his 7th, 18th and 23rd years of his reign- total reported by Jeremiah taken to Babylon 4,600 -- so which date do we take as truth? If 607 is not it, and the first date is, 1914 is off by about 20 years. SInce the org needed that date to get to 1914 that is the final word for them.. albeit wrong.

  607 is supposed to have been a pivotal year that all archeologists confirmed? As 70 CE was for 2nd fall of Jerusalem by the Romans.
  

  And yes! The org is complicit in cover up -as the elder who gave a talk last month said - all false religion have abusers in them.... I about fell off the chair- how narrow his view is.....Now there is a month of child abuse study articles coming up
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  Moving to Minnesota

  by HappyDad in

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  you probably think i need mental counseling but i am moving from southwest florida to minnesota.

  i was just there last week in the -29 degree weather to close on a house i bought in oakdale, minnesota.

  being a florida resident for 5 years has taught me that it is no longer the paradise that people think it is.

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  Well being from Canada, we do have the four seasons,( and that is getting sketchy) loved to visit Fla but give me the seasons, unfortunately I feel even our climate is changing drastically.. 54 below is unnatural due to that artic air coming down from the pole, last week with wind chill, we were at - 26 - its all changing and for those who do not believe in climate change ??????

  At the same time, the forest fires, the massive hurricanes, ice shield melt - it won't be long before we are all adversely affected- from migration to various states/provinces, to inability to grow crops- our crops were late to the field due to wet spring that did not dry out til first of June - it's already happening to the lower 48 - not to mention the refugees who are on the move due to disgusting government practises in many lands..

  I believe we are like ostriches, keep our head buried in the sand - but the assend is exposed ..might save the head but the end is gone
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  ''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019

  by Beth Sarim in

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  i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

  anybody heard of this!!

  just a heads-up!

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  Meeting last night in Canada - no letter read -- had my mike ready to tape but nothing
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  THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

  by scotoma in

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  this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

  its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

  to minute 52. .

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  For years Russia has been the problematic KOTN... Morris harkens back to 1914 and how astonished the world was when something happened, then he picks a quote out of 1975!!! THE YEAR all things were to end, when people sold homes, businesses, furniture, etc. My mate quite a government job in 1974 to go full time pioneering and leave his pension behind.... and they say they did not indicate 1975 ws IT??? Yes they did and it was right from the convention platform. They say we mis understood - really? Ruin lives and no apology - so what makes this announcement any more important when the scriptures say - no man knows the date or hour, not even the Son.,, along with don't be afraid.. afraid !

  Three weeks ago an elder in his talk said all false religion had pedos in them- I think we really should be afraid...
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  I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

  by ohnightdivine in

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  i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

  on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

  i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

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  Right now, I can truthfully say I have come to know 3 males and three women and myself that have come to realize TTATT.

  All of us still attend but the "joy" is gone and time will be the long run for us all.

  The cong removes chairs now to fill up the rows and make it look as though the hall is full?? we have eyes and can see it is not ---, so its just not us. By the way, we belong to four different cong so I dont really know how others are faring.

  TL
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  Jehovah's Witnesses always assume that I'm an inactive JW because I couldn't follow their rules

  by Not_Culty in

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  truthlover123

  Pictures like these and the destruction that is drilled into everyone - including kids.. leave those who are emotionally sensitive with a lot of PTSD issues as they mature.. Its not that noticeable as your kids are growing up but actions and verbal questioning on the part of children show that there is confusion and fear and nightmares that stay for years. The stress and anxiety causes many emotional and health issues that just do not go away.
  

  This type of torture was eminated back in the early 1900's - expounded on with experimentation in concentration camps and continues today - for those who are MATURE (older) and come into the org, this is not an issue, BUT being a kid brought up and drilled in this stuff, now ThAT is a whole different issue. The child carries this for life and feels guilty if they question God plus leaving the org is a trauma many would not understand until they leave themselves.