Posts by truthlover123

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Meaning of Luke 9:49,50

by truthlover123 in

these two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?

others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?

truthlover123

Thanks everyon e for your feedback-- good reasonings for my mind to mull over

There is so much that is not making sense to me aymore.. I am seeing everything in a different light

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Meaning of Luke 9:49,50

by truthlover123 in

these two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?

others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?

truthlover123

These two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in Jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to Him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the WTBTS states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean? Others have the right to salvation as well - straight from Jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using Jesus name?

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How Long Will YOU Identify As A Jehovah’s Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some witnesses realize that they got into a religion and it turned out to be disastrous.

many decide they have to somehow get out.

some do it right away and others take longer.. where are you in your journey?

truthlover123

Its getting harder as each court case appears...

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Question? How Many Hours of Field Service Does it Take

by new boy in

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friends

currently, to create one new jehovah's witness convert?.

truthlover123

If you look at countries were a ban is on, Muslim countries, -(growing at a rate of 32%)

you are looking at 35% of earths population ( estimate )that has not "heard" of Jw's. This is not a world wide preaching work- impossible! So they upbuild the congregations by calling it a name that is a MISNOMER.

According to PEW Research 2017 - earth population was 7.7 billion - deducting Russia, China, NK, Phillipines, just some of banned areas we see 3.1 billion where bans are occurring, ( there are more) leaving a total that receive the" good news" of 2.8 billion. For the WTBTS to say the good news is a worldwide work and needs money to continue is incorrect. For there to be ONLY 281,744 baptized in 2017 (and mostly born in at a tender age) with 8.5 million ?? doing the work, does not make sense.

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Lets face it. Baptism is a lie.

by nowawake14 in

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friends

i remember when i did.

i was in hs when that happened.

i wasn't even awake yet.

truthlover123

When I was baptized, the 2nd question was asked was belief in the father, the son and the holy spirit. Now, it is the father, the son and Gods directed spirit ORGANIZATION-- this is NOT what scripture is all about. So does that make my baptism wrong? Can I get a scriptural divorce? Does it make the new question invalid? I would definitely say "Yes"-- the society sucks new ones into a system of massive fraud. The Amway business model, bring in the new ones to sell the product and build a money train.

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''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019

by Beth Sarim in

i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

anybody heard of this!!

just a heads-up!

truthlover123

No letter read yet.. And this is the 17th. However, some news in Canada that halls are being sold and congregations being combined/cut starting from the west to the east... Seeing that Montreal has swallowed up 16 congregations, haven't heard how many were out west, but if anyone has numbers for BC, Sask, Manitoba, Alberta please make a note so a track can be kept.

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What holidays are they talking about?

by carla in

in the elders manual under apostasy,.

"1) celebrating false religious holidays: (ex.

32:4-6; jer.

truthlover123

That is called "straining the gnat" I believe..... so many congregations have different ideas.. one sister I was speaking about said the society said people worship the Christmas tree. Previously I was in the world and did not worship the "tree".. It was pretty, that was it. and she argued that is the stand the society took, I told her it was wrong - no worship of the tree was in my house. She was adamant, but so was I - quiet times.

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When The Truth - is Not -The Truth

by Esau in

is 607bc being a made up, “plug in” date the only thing that invalidates 1914 from being christ’s time of kingly rein?.

i mean, screw the math & bs formulas.

can 1914 simply work as a starting date for “the last days” simply by the events that occurred??

truthlover123

Neb attacked the first time 18-20 years previously to the "downfall of Jerusalem" the second time he attacked in C607 BCE. Then there was a third attack so which date do they really quote - 607!

Check out Jeremiah 52:26-30 during the time of Neb's rule in his 7th, 18th and 23rd years of his reign- total reported by Jeremiah taken to Babylon 4,600 -- so which date do we take as truth? If 607 is not it, and the first date is, 1914 is off by about 20 years. SInce the org needed that date to get to 1914 that is the final word for them.. albeit wrong.

607 is supposed to have been a pivotal year that all archeologists confirmed? As 70 CE was for 2nd fall of Jerusalem by the Romans.

And yes! The org is complicit in cover up -as the elder who gave a talk last month said - all false religion have abusers in them.... I about fell off the chair- how narrow his view is.....Now there is a month of child abuse study articles coming up

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Moving to Minnesota

by HappyDad in

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friends

you probably think i need mental counseling but i am moving from southwest florida to minnesota.

i was just there last week in the -29 degree weather to close on a house i bought in oakdale, minnesota.

being a florida resident for 5 years has taught me that it is no longer the paradise that people think it is.

truthlover123

Well being from Canada, we do have the four seasons,( and that is getting sketchy) loved to visit Fla but give me the seasons, unfortunately I feel even our climate is changing drastically.. 54 below is unnatural due to that artic air coming down from the pole, last week with wind chill, we were at - 26 - its all changing and for those who do not believe in climate change ??????

At the same time, the forest fires, the massive hurricanes, ice shield melt - it won't be long before we are all adversely affected- from migration to various states/provinces, to inability to grow crops- our crops were late to the field due to wet spring that did not dry out til first of June - it's already happening to the lower 48 - not to mention the refugees who are on the move due to disgusting government practises in many lands..

I believe we are like ostriches, keep our head buried in the sand - but the assend is exposed ..might save the head but the end is gone

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''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019

by Beth Sarim in

i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

anybody heard of this!!

just a heads-up!

truthlover123

Meeting last night in Canada - no letter read -- had my mike ready to tape but nothing