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  2020-10-01--Care For Your Personal Needs Yourself----Full Time Servants! (as of 2020-10-06)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess the full time servants will have to fend for themselves or rely on publishers to care for them.

  ------------------------------------for special full-time servants in the field in the united states branch territory1.

  necessary personal needs: it is preferred that you and your mate (if married) continue to care for your personal needs yourself.

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  Atlantis-

  thanks for all info very much appreciated
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  2020-10-01--Care For Your Personal Needs Yourself----Full Time Servants! (as of 2020-10-06)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess the full time servants will have to fend for themselves or rely on publishers to care for them.

  ------------------------------------for special full-time servants in the field in the united states branch territory1.

  necessary personal needs: it is preferred that you and your mate (if married) continue to care for your personal needs yourself.

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  truthlover123

  When 75 came and went that was the straw that broke the camels back - we were both working and as the companies were offering pensions, started to save then.... plus bonds, giving more to the pension plans than required.... was still pimi but that changed over the years but the pension plan kept building... going in our pockets rather than the society's

  TODAY I feel justified in what we did, although , seeing back then what others were not doing, gave us pause as to wondering if we were "ye of little faith" - today the chickens have come home to roost as the New York lawyers are working overtime with abuse cases against the churches, WT is next and our funds will not be there and have not been for years.
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  Are You Afraid To Publicity Express Your Opinion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.

  when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.

  are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?

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  agree to disagree and go own way

  Eagles
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  Are You Afraid To Publicity Express Your Opinion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.

  when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.

  are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?

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  Yes- usually I interject with a point or two, depending on conversation, and if its not going anywhere just sit back and let it happen. - everyone has an opinion and usually it leads to same place

  No sense in getting upset over something you cant change... adapt, state your mind on the matter with a bit of humor or leave

  There is too much on the line nowadays to sweat it..
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  Sunday WT Study- King of North and South

  by truthlover123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  paragraph 8 dealing with who is the anglo-american power -- they note different images- feet of clay, 7 headed beast which has a 8th head arise, and so on.

  the last image is of the "false prophet- indicating this is another aspect of the anglo american image quoting revelation 19:20 and saying the wild beast and the false prophet are one in the same -(i see the as separate entities) -- a/a dual world power.

  which will be destroyed... .

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  Paragraph 8 dealing with who is the Anglo-American power -- they note different images- feet of clay, 7 headed beast which has a 8th head arise, and so on.

  The last image is of the "false prophet- indicating this is another aspect of the Anglo American image quoting Revelation 19:20 and saying the wild beast and the false prophet are one in the same -(I see the as separate entities) -- A/A dual world power. which will be destroyed...
  

  This has to be a new thought- wasn't the false prophet previously known as Babylon the Great? I find this very distressing.. I mentioned this quandry to some and was told" you arent questioning the GB are you?"

  Just thoughful answers please. Did anyone else see this?
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  "The Best Convention Ever" - 2020 starts today

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dress up for the show.

  ... and now please be seated.

  proudly presenting your 2020 convention program.. ... and, thank god, for the ff button on my player.

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  On tuesday nights meeting, it was mentioned that nothing face to face til 2022 -

  As far as the attendance count, if your on phone you get a passcode, that asks how any in attendance on phone, but if on Zoom, the number in attendance is showing on screen as inputted by householder.

  As far as attendance at the "convention", the number on for the WT supposedly indicates how any are watching the JWB sessions. Yet one has to break away from the WT to get to the convention on JWB, so I can't think everyone is signing into the JWB therefore counts should be off..
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  Jessica Leigh Collins - do you believe her story (Epstein)

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as i was researching some stuff about this epstein guy and came across postings about jessica leigh collins.. her twitter has most of her story: https://twitter.com/midnitemj but it is actively being suppressed by twitter - a regular search on twitter doesn't get her account as a result and none of her posts have been seen by more than a few hundred people.

  many media outlets have tagged her as "russian troll" while she doesn't seem anything like it.

  it certainly is way too detailed and is going on for way too long to be a troll nor is her story being artificially trended or upvoted, fact is, the posts have virtually no upvotes or retweets even though people elsewhere claimed they tried.. what i can gather is that she came out about being trafficked by epstein but quickly found out that nobody is actually interested in her story.

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  I would say Ghislaine has a good reason to be quiet and feign alz or plead the fifth... Epstein info is on Netflix in a doc... check that one out.. and ask how could a man of his height and weight hang himself from a 6 foot bed post in the cell? With the cameras not working and guards asleep? Epstein offered to

  pay his own bail set at 500 million but the court refused - he had to go to prison..... made out his will two days before he died transferring all monies and properties to the Islands so no one could get hands on it.. His brother is trying to obtain it as is his abuse victims....
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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  well 2024.... that should be about the time the new audio/video cash cow black hole will be coming to a finish - 2025??

  Contributions are down according to local accounts report by 50% with the combined congregations footing bills for the empty halls- I would say for all the halls left unsold that are standing empty, this wonderful combining of congregations is a bust! --so this audio/visual centre does not seem to make sense in these times. NO one can support this call for money at every turn. This is a new world, going in a totally different direction.

  This so called CO letter is just another load on top of another pile of s......
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  Zoom and JW.org working together.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who is hosting who here?.

  https://jworg.zoom.us/.

  our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.

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  Well interesting. Question: if they are able to obtain your e mail address, the ip address would also be known?

  Then IF you were to log in to jw.org, could they cross reference your information to tracing other sites you would log into? Did they buy into Zoom? Or buy Zoom?

  What is going on??
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  The Motive of the Governing Body

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

  however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

  it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

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  Very well written to go straight to the facts and disillusions of an organization from one who was there to see it all --.....I agree power and control--definitely - reminds me of a Jim Jones only this has been spouting since 1874 to 1914 to 1975 to generation....

  And now --If your not on Zoom, your questioned, if you are on Zoom and dont have the camera on you at all times, other pubs want to know what is going on.. elders want you there for the "ride along" /active phone calling service now more days that ever (and if your not on doing phone calls- they know your service record is kaput)... its a captive audience now - no getting away from it.

  Technological hell to bind worse than ever. No real private life anymore. Control at its best.