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DC invite
by turtleturtle in
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2. bible
has anyone seen the district convention invitation.

guess who's on the front page?

yep, a gb member.
turtleturtle

Has anyone seen the district convention invitation. Guess who's on the front page? Yep, a GB member. These guys love to plaster their faces everywhere. Narcissists....
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Exclusivity Mentality
by turtleturtle in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i was listening to my favorite radio personality, and he was talking about the "exclusivity mentality" in law enforcement.

it sounded a lot like the exclusivity that happens in the kingdom hall with some groups of elders.

heck, in our hall, the elders have exclusive elder parties, usually after the co's elder meeting.
turtleturtle

Greetings all,
I was listening to my favorite radio personality, and he was talking about the "exclusivity mentality" in law enforcement. It sounded a lot like the exclusivity that happens in the Kingdom Hall with SOME groups of Elders. Heck, in our hall, the Elders have exclusive Elder parties, usually after the CO's Elder meeting. No one but the Elders are invited.
Anyway, I wanted to share this concept with my spouse. So, does anyone have a non JW related article about the "exclusivity mentality"? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
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This weeks WT study
by turtleturtle in
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do you appreciate our spiritual heritage?.

para.

16. if a person clings to false doctrines, such as the trinity and the immortality of the soul, he cannot benefit from the ransom.
turtleturtle

Do You Appreciate Our Spiritual Heritage?
para. 16
If a person clings to false doctrines, such as the Trinity and the immortality of the soul, he cannot benefit from the ransom. But we can.
So, no JW has been able to benefit from the ransom up until certain points, since the previous "understanding" about the FDS, tribulation, worshipping Jesus, the cross, and "this generation" was wrong?
I am sure the WT would argue that they mean the "core" doctrines. However, who decides what a core doctrine is? Isn't not worshipping Jesus and understanding who the FDS is a pretty big, core doctrine?

Thoughts?
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FDS article
by turtleturtle in
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2. bible
can someone send me a link to the article mentioned on cedars blog about the fds light?.
turtleturtle

okay, thanks.
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FDS article
by turtleturtle in
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2. bible
can someone send me a link to the article mentioned on cedars blog about the fds light?.
turtleturtle

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release
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FDS article
by turtleturtle in
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2. bible
can someone send me a link to the article mentioned on cedars blog about the fds light?.
turtleturtle

Can someone send me a link to the article mentioned on cedars blog about the FDS light?
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My wife just told me to move out...
by nolongerconfused in
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2. bible
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.

she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.

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turtleturtle

She is scared.
Don't talk about TTATT to her anymore. Youve already told her how you feel. Tell her you were wrong to push it on her. Tell her you love her with a card, nothing else.
Also, do not move out unless you feel there is psysical danger in the situation. Let her be the one to move out.
You could even drop a line to the BOE and state that yes, youve had some probs with the ORG, but you are not a spiritual threat to your wife.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-10-2013 WT Study (TRUSTED STEWARDS)
by blondie in
1. jw
2. friends
your relationship with god will then be like that of those christians to whom paul wrote: you do not belong to yourselves, for you were bought with a price.

for example, the comments jesus made about one.

master, jesus christ.1 cor.
turtleturtle

Blondie,
Is there any way you could format this in a printer friendly version? I would love for it to only be a couple pages and be able to take it with me to the KH. Thanks
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$$$$$$
by turtleturtle in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i would like to try and get the wts reasons for doing some shady things:.

what do you think the wt would say regarding why:.

they don't provide tax filings for all the corporations associated with jws.. they do not inform jws regarding how much money is paid out for lawsuits.. they want to keep the boe book and letters secret.. .
turtleturtle

I would like to try and get the WTs reasons for doing some shady things:
What do you think the WT would say regarding why:
They don't provide tax filings for all the corporations associated with JWs.
They do not inform JWs regarding how much money is paid out for lawsuits.
They want to keep the BOE book and letters secret.
I was reading about pastors "fleecing their flocks" this morning and I'll tell ya...
Could The WT Be A U.N./NATO/NWO Collaborator?
by turtleturtle in
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2. bible
two reasons i am getting suspicious.. 1) the many articles hyping about global warming.

in my opinion, the wt should not have covered this.. 2) the announcement i clearly remember (perhaps there were two), where an elder read a letter about "disaster relief" and stated that jws should follow the direction of government official in times of crisis.. http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=6937987.

i could see that direction turning south real fast.
turtleturtle

Two reasons I am getting suspicious.
1) The many articles hyping about global warming. In my opinion, the WT should not have covered this.
2) The announcement I clearly remember (perhaps there were two), where an Elder read a letter about "disaster relief" and stated that JWs should follow the direction of government official in times of crisis.
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987
I could see that direction turning south real fast. "Give up any guns you have, take this 'vaccination'. Can anyone say "purple triangle all over again".
3) The anti-gun rhetoric in the WT. It is one thing if a JW is planning to join a militia. But, its another thing buying a firearm to protect your family. Criminals are horrible these days. They won't just take your goods. They will rape your wife and daughters!