Posts by Ranchette

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Being Deceived

by Dawn in

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what an interesting group here!

i have a question to toss out to those of you who were once active jw's that are now born again.. i was a "zealous" jw - raised as one and was an aux pioneer, etc.

my whole family is jw's (elders, etc.).

Ranchette

I believe there is no true religion on this earth.

Any religion that claims to have a monopoly on truth is really a cult.

If you just have to have religion in your life look at it for what it can give you, a sense of belonging,companionship an organized way to perform community and volenteer work.

But religion can't buy you salvation or approval from God.

Personally, I'd rather live a good life and accompolish these things through groups outside of religion.
I feel safer and so much happier.

Just my opinions.

Edited to say hello and welcome to the board.

Ranchette

24

Going to the Memorial Tonight? Whose Partaking?

by Reborn2002 in

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i was curious if anyone on this website is going to the jw memorial tonight?.

is anyone partaking?.

personal webpage-.

Ranchette

ly4fer,

The scripture in Revelation (chap7 I think) that mentions the 144,000 the one that the Jws use for this teaching is a good place to start.

If you look at that chapter you will see that the witnesses take the first four verses of the chapter and say it is completly literal.
Then they go on to say that the rest of the chapter is symbolic only.

They have no right to take such liberties with what they claim to be God's word.

That chapter is either completly literal or completly symbolic!

Edited because I forgot to mention that most people come to the conclusion that this chapter is symbolic when reading the context of the Greek scriptures.

Ranchette

10

Have You Read your Scope Today?

by plmkrzy in

i got a strange e-mail.

one of "those" just comes outa nowhere and disapears like the lone ranger.. then i read my scope: .

not everybody who comes along with a smile, a handshake and an arsenal of statistics really knows what they are talking about.

Ranchette

plmcrrzy,

I didn't mean to imply that you don't have a great mind.
I know you do and I enjoy your posts very much.

Ranchette

9

why I like this web site

by blindfool in

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i thought about posting this topic earlier today and decided not to.. but after reading little-lamb-on-a-hill i thought, what the heck?.

yesterday, my eight year old son had some minor surgery, nothing serious, very minor, but you know how the doctors tell you how even minor surgery can take a serious turn.

well, i started to imagine all the things that could go wrong and of course thought of the blood issue.

Ranchette

Hi!
Welcome to the board!

I am so glad things went well with your son.

Also I'm happy that you find this website helpful.
It's been good for me too.

Ranchette

10

Have You Read your Scope Today?

by plmkrzy in

i got a strange e-mail.

one of "those" just comes outa nowhere and disapears like the lone ranger.. then i read my scope: .

not everybody who comes along with a smile, a handshake and an arsenal of statistics really knows what they are talking about.

Ranchette

Lilacs,

Great minds think alike

Ranchette

10

Have You Read your Scope Today?

by plmkrzy in

i got a strange e-mail.

one of "those" just comes outa nowhere and disapears like the lone ranger.. then i read my scope: .

not everybody who comes along with a smile, a handshake and an arsenal of statistics really knows what they are talking about.

Ranchette

I think Asrology is interesting but I don't like the idea of giving it much weight in my life.

Reading a daily horiscope is too close for my comfort to reading WT's Daily Text.

Ranchette

32

My Crazy Mother!

by Ranchette in

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here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

Ranchette

First of all I want to say thank you to everyone.
Next I’d like to say that this is not a case of mom and daughter having a close wonderful relationship and then when daughter leaves the organization mom is left hurt.
The sad truth is she has been verbally and emotionally abusive with me all my life.
She also is this way with my sister and father.
I still love her but am getting stronger the longer I am away from her.
That being said I wanted to let yall know how I handled this situation.

I thought about what everyone has said and I decided to get a card to reassure her of my love and I also wrote a letter.
I am sharing both with you and anyone who thinks this is wrong can go to another thread now.
I did not try to address every issue she raised in our phone conversation but tried to stick to a main subject
This will be long and take up lots of space.
I don’t usually say a lot here so I figure I’ll make up for it now

When I went to the card store all I could find was sappy mushy cards that didn’t fit our relationship until I found this one.

They say
That the
Mother- Daughter
bond
is one of the
strongest.

They say it can never be broken,

NO
MATTER
WHAT.

And that
means
everything.

It means
its okay
if it takes a long time to understand each other on some things.

There are deeper things that are understood without saying.

And those are the most important.

It means some things don’t have to be understood or solved or perfect.
It means we just keep on loving each other through life.

Through everything
NO
MATTER
What!

The following is the letter I wrote her. Names and places are changed.

Mom,

Hello again.
This card seems to express my feelings very well. Looks like we have some work to do on our relationship.
It is not natural, normal, or condoned by God for you to cast your daughters away or judge them because they don’t believe the way you do. I understand that your religion is your life and that is fine but I made a choice over a year ago that I would no longer pretend to live something I don’t believe in.
You don’t have to agree with this but you should accept this and respect me for no longer being a hypocrite.
This would save you so much pain.

It is wrong to pretend to your family that you have a close relationship with your daughters when you don’t. You don’t approve of our choices in life and you’ve made that very clear. Since you believe your path is from God and ours from Satan, this tends to create a huge wall between us.

The coldness and distance you feel with your parents is not the result of anything I have done wrong.
I have been nothing but honest and I have no reason to cover up or protect the teachings of this religion. If they are right then let them stand as they are.
If you truly believe these teachings are scriptural as you claim then you should be completely honest with your parents about how you feel about my sister and I no longer being JWs and how your “conscience won’t allow you to have much to do with us.”
You’ve said these words to me twice.
No wonder you are so uncomfortable, your parents hear the truth from me and my sister and get a completely different version from you.
Think about this please.

Your parents love you just as they always have. They did their homework on the on the JWs years ago and they know the real truth about what they teach.
They can see right through you every time you try to make things look rosy to protect WT image.

Please be honest with yourself and stop blaming me.

I terminated our last phone conversation because you were completely out of control, hurling accusations and guilt trips. I couldn’t get a word in especially at the last.

I will not be your emotional punching bag anymore! I will hang up every time this happens in the future and I will walk out if we are in person.
It’s not good for either of us……….

Love,
Your daughter

Some may think this is harsh but I believe I have been too kind.
This is the second I have been called out of the blue and blindsided by her rantings on this subject.
She needs help from a DR and a firm hand from those that love her.

Ranchette

32

My Crazy Mother!

by Ranchette in

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friends

here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

Ranchette

Comf,
That is a good suggestion but she was so out of control that I couldn't get a word in much less a sentence.

I have thought about sending her a card reassuring her of my love and adding that I'm always happy to talk if it's in a reasonable rational way.

Ranchette

32

My Crazy Mother!

by Ranchette in

jw
friends

here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

Ranchette

Now yall might understand why I dream of disfellowshipping as a good thing,a protection,a sort of armor from the whole bunch of them!

My life is so happy and peaceful till she decides to disrupt the serenity.

It helped to write this out.
It has been rattling around in my brain for two days.

Ranchette

32

My Crazy Mother!

by Ranchette in

jw
friends

here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

Ranchette

I wanted to mention that what she is refering to with regards to her parents is that she has been shunning my husband and has told me more than once that her conscience wouldn't let her have close association with me.
Niether of us are DF or DA.
I am honest when my Grandparents ask questions.
They know I quit a year ago and want to know how things are.
They know all about JWs and are concerned.

Mom pretends every thing is fine between us to protect WT image.
They have her # and she is mad at me for it.

Ranchette