I speculate a lot, I'm pretty positive there is no religion that has 'the truth', and I only BELIEVE in one thing . . . that everything is far more all right and beautiful than we can imagine right now.
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What Are Your Beliefs?
by MoeJoJoJo ini am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.
i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.
i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?
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I took a drugged-out raging schizo to memorial
by raven101 ini laugh about it now, but at the time i was mortified beyond words.
one of my sisters reminded me of it the other night.
ho ho ha ha we both laughed sooo hard!.
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I laugh about it now, but at the time I was mortified beyond words. One of my sisters reminded me of it the other night. Ho ho ha ha we both laughed sooo hard!
It was at the kingdom hall I attended, and I invited 2 of my sisters.. I was a regular again as I was pregnant and had decided I had to 'save my child from Armageddon', my two sisters were not active but as we all had been raised in 'the truth' and still believed, they were up for it.
One of them had a boyfriend who was not only schizophrenic and refused to take his medication but was a raging drug-addict and kleptomaniac to boot. Anyhow I wanted my sisters to go but had banned him from my house previously, when my sister sprang it upon me at the last moment that he had insisted on coming along I relented for this one night only.
While we were getting ready at my house he stole a 10 out of my wallet, little did I know this was just the beginning of the fun.
First let me describe him, he was shaved bald and dressed entirely in black, trenchcoat, boots the works . . . and emaciated from extensive drug use!!! Wheeeha what fun!
We, as luck would have it and because perpetual lateness is a family tradition missed scoring seats in the back by the door. Thats right, third row center!!! As soon as the auspicious ceremony really began to get underway A. (as I'll refer to him) began to mumble in an undertone, seemingly in response to the speaker. His dialogue got progressively louder and it became horrifyingly apparent that he was responding to the speaker, very clearly and succinctly, and in the most appallingly abusive and pornographic language imaginable!!
Soon he was speaking loudly enough to be heard in half the hall. The 'brothers' came over several times and told him to tone it down, finally telling him he would have to leave if he didn't (they were this far from strong-arming him out of the hall and probably already would have if they hadn't been afraid to touch him!) , so he did tone it down a bit . . . but anyone within a couple of rows could hear him pretty clearly. My sisters and I of course were privy to every word. Stuff like F$#k Jehovah, filthy f$#%ing whore! S#%k my %$##k and much worse!!!!!!! You really can't have any idea how beautifully and seamlessly it flowed if you havent heard something similar from someone who is mentally disturbed . . . I was quite convinced he had a demon!!!!
Then they passed the bread and wine . . .
No, he didn't do it . . . but he came so close!!!!! At the time I assumed sure jehovah had stayed his hand, in retrospect he was probly under the baptist raised assumption it was only grape juice and as he was obviously off solids altogether the stale bread probly didn't spark an interest.
So that memorial ended with a hurried and embarrassed exit from the hall, at the time I would never have guessed it would one day be my favorite memorial memory.
raven101
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THE POWER OF NOW.........
by Bhagavad in....... a guide to spiritual enlightenment ....... by eckhart tolle, was published in 1999. tolle helps us to be conscious of now.
he relates on page 43: "since ancient times, spiritual masters of all traditions have pointed to the now as the key to the spiritual dimension.
despite this, it seems to have remained a secret.
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Hey Bhagavad, why don't you post some excerpts? I for one would be interested in reading them.
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I was pondering...again.....
by VioletAnai ini have another question re a bible topic.
i know some of you don't believe what it says, but just to get your opinion would be helpful.. ok, so in genisis.....the angels see the beautiful women of earth and get hot under the collar and proceed to come down and have sexual relations with these women.. now, some time before this happened, two silly individuals in their naivity, listen to a dumbarse snake and to tell you the truth if i was a new human and a snake spoke to me, i'd take pretty much what he says as gospel....cos that just doesn't happen.....or i'd be having a psychotic episode.
so they go and disobey god and what do they get for punishment....kicked out of home and left to fend for themselves without food, shelter, health, happiness or they father's love...all for disobeying him over a silly apple (i know this is to do with the 'sovereignty' issue, why he needs to prove himself i'll never know).
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Dear Violet,
You ask:
Am I really brainwashed from childhood, even tho I broke away for a few years and viewed them independantly
I can only answer you from my own experience, I too was raised as a witness and 'broke away' and analyzed the religion with what I believed to be unbiased eyes . . . problem was they were far from unbiased.
I thought I was doing well just reading the bible and trying to disprove the witnesses teachings, I was under the impression that this was an effective method. The conclusion I came to at that time was that their interpretation made more sense than other interpretations, the problem was my method STARTED from an undeniably biased assumption . . . the assumption that the 'truth' was in the bible to start with!!
A sincere search for truth can only start with no assumptions whatsoever, THATS the truth.
The only thing to prevent us from a sincere search is fear.
If we had been born in a muslim country our faith would be just as strong, and no less or more biased. We might struggle with the choice between a traditional interpretation vs. a more lenient one but in all probability that would be the limit of our search. The failure to search outside the basic belief system is rooted in a deep seated, long standing, and unquestioned assumption, and the fear of questioning something which we have been taught is unquestionable.
Fear of offending some all-powerful vengeful god. Fear of facing the trials and tribulations of our lives alone . . . fear of damnation. Few stop to realize that fear itself is damnation.
There is a scripture thats says something to the effect that god does not cause division, that satan does.. Violet, what does organized religion bring . . . worldwide division . . . or unity?
To really search for the truth one can start with NO ASSUMPTIONS WHATSOEVER, the search for truth is impossible when fear is present. Don't start searching with the assumption that this truth is, or is not, in any book or organization whatsoever.
raven101
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'I really feel God protected me'
by ashitaka inokay, folks.
whenever people say these kind of things in disasters i think, "well, what about the other guy who got killed?
god didn't feel like saving little johnny today?
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Ha ha I just read the last few replys and I guess it did occur to someone Huh?
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'I really feel God protected me'
by ashitaka inokay, folks.
whenever people say these kind of things in disasters i think, "well, what about the other guy who got killed?
god didn't feel like saving little johnny today?
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Uh did it ever occur to anyone that the ones that died may just be considering themselves the favored ones??!
Maybe they dont talk to us for a reason . . . like they're too good for us . . . hmmmm?
Maybe they're the ones leaving US in the lurch . . . ever think about that Huh?
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Are women naturally "Bi" ?
by refiners fire injust a question.
actually a friend of mine, alex, (who hopefully might read this and commence posting on this board) has been insisting for 20 years that women are naturally bi sexual.
i laughed at his claims.. but now, looking around here, and based on numerous group chats ive had with women on this site, there seems to be some evidence that his theory is correct.
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I think it is most likely that women and men are equally capable of those tendencies.
We will never know for sure, however, as these tendencies are discouraged in men as much as they are encouraged in women.
Some might say a womans body is more aestetically pleasing, but again we'll never know as the female body is far more lauded and displayed in society . . . and for the same reasons that bi-sexuality is encouraged in women . . . because we live in a patriarchal society in which there is a huge focus on the expression of male sexuality, and the display of female sensuality.
That's my 'opinion' I'll end with my husbands . . . 'Are women naturally bi-sexual?'
"Uh, yeah . . . every man knows that!"
Raven101
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What a wonderful world it would be...
by joannadandy init just dawned on me...you can't give someone the finger if you are wearing mittens.. this may be of little importance to some of you in warm areas, but this bothers/intrigues me.
if i wanted to flip a bird while wearing mittens the person i am sending it to would just think i am angrily waving at them, and then the padded wagon of doom would come.. would more mittens in our society qwell road rage?.
i was also pondering skipping...i haven't had a good skip in ages!.
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i think the world would undoubtedly be a much better place if adults ran and played like they did as children.
How about adult sized play grounds?
When was the last time you just ran and played or climbed a tree? Played without the focus of 'winning' or proving yourself better or more worthy, without having to 'improve' or succeed.
Play with no ambition.
What percentage of the angst and bittterness would leave us if we played again?
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Homework: what do nations think about america?
by raven101 in.
i would appreciate any input from residents of other nations for this homework assignment, as well as americans.. what do members of other nations really think about america, compared with what we percieve them as thinking?.
please help, assignment due tomorrow!.
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Thanks so much you all, your opinions are very helpful, I'll keep checking the post throughout the evening and appreciate any additional input!
Thanks,
Raven101
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Homework: what do nations think about america?
by raven101 in.
i would appreciate any input from residents of other nations for this homework assignment, as well as americans.. what do members of other nations really think about america, compared with what we percieve them as thinking?.
please help, assignment due tomorrow!.
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I would appreciate any input from residents of other nations for this homework assignment, as well as americans.
What do members of other nations really think about america, compared with what we percieve them as thinking?
Please help, assignment due tomorrow!
Raven101