I believe he went to college, but not sure if he graduated. I think he took Ancient Greek I, and Ancient Greek II then just let Jehovo whisper the rest to him from his brown shoes
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Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek
by Wild_Thing inhas anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?
you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.
what college did he attend?
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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silentbuddha
So OrphanCrow how long were you a Jehovah's Witness... just wondering LOL
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Well look at this experience from one of our local posters. Being black I try not to infuse my stories about racism their because truthfully sometimes it is hard to accept. However, this is very telling. And this is the guy I should sympathize with? All of this assuming he actually was diagnosed with dementia...
Ronnie Klineman from Ruston Louisiana. Told me my favorite story about Brother Swingle who was on the governing body. Ronnie set on Lyman’s table. This new black kid was sitting there feeling pretty good about himself as most new boys do.
Lyman said to him. "Boy would you pass me the potatoes?"
The black brother looked at Lyman in the eye and said. "I'm not your boy!”
To which Lyman said, not batting an eye. "Nigger pass the potatoes."
Hard to believe isn’t? Yes, Bethel was not the place to try and be uppity.
This was the early seventies and the “black power” thing was happening. A lot of black brothers went there had a little bit of an attitude. If they didn’t, some pick it up after they got there. I can’t say I blame them.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Wakanda I was agreeing with what you were saying, I knew being an ex-bethelite you would understand that no one would except these men were fallible... let alone mentally unstable.
The shock of seeing that after seeing the same man deliver hour long discourses was insane. I remember afterward my assistant overseer Carlos West was like, Bro. Swingell has always done things his own way. So we are use to it.
Like everything else in this org... swept under the rug
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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WingCommander, I have another... it may may top that but it was extremely funny.
Dan Sydlik was my favorite because he seemed down to earth. We played basketball at the gym every Friday and big-belly Sydlik would stand at the entrance and watch us I shit you not wearing a beret and a paint stained white t-shirt.
He said watching the young brothers run and jump reminded him of gazelles and inspired his painting.
Well shit, who knew he was an accomplished painter. One day as we were leaving he invited us to his office to see some of them. It looked like the painting of a 3 year old who was missing a thumb...
He spent the next 10 minutes convincing us how wonderful they were and which painters by he took cues from. It had to be the most epic troll ever... or he was completely delusional.
Sir82... you failed miserably... I like the attempt but you came up short :(
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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How did I insinuate I would do so now? I like you guys. Why would a 19 year old even think that gods organization would have a person with dementia on the governing body? As well as giving hour long discourses as well as conducting the family watchtower study?
Wakanda, I imagine for one second what would have happened if I would have suggested that a governing body member was suffering from dementia while speaking to an overseer. That would have been a bad and move.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Wow a rude 19 year old... I must have been the first and only one in existence. O no.
I was totally caught off guard however by the fact that people who knew he had dementia was still making decisions that impacted the lives of people who had their senses.
Maybe the stress of making the decisions he made was a contributing factor to his dementia, ooooo well I cant fell sorry for him I'll let you do that
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Orphan Crow I was 19 years old and saw a man who was instrumental in creating policies that would impact my life for the negative who was sane enough to participate with instituting mandates that killed people who at that moment was dressed as a geisha stuffing his face with red jello for breakfast.
I gave and currently gove no fucks about whether or not my laughing was politically correct.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Sunday my old Bethel roommate came up to visit me. He left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.
While we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at Bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with Bro. Swingell.
It was a Saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast. Saturday you do not have to sit at assigned tables or dress up. Just before the breakfast was served GB member Lyman Swingel strolls in. The man was older and shuffling his feet, but he was wearing a kimono over a pair of jeans...
I was staring at him because I could not believe what I was seeing. So of course we tried not to pay attention, but it got worse. After he sat down he pulled the waiter close and tells him something. 2 minutes later the waiter comes out with a tray that had 3 large containers of JELLO.
I started laughing and the brother at the head of the table pulled me aside and informed me that he was going to speak to my overseer. All the while my roommate is looking at me as if I was about to be executed.
The following Monday my overseer tears into me and tells me that I need to have more respect for Christ's brothers and if I cant display that level of respect then maybe I should go home. Then 2 weeks later I received a new assignment. I was sent to the office furniture department which is like bethel hell.
We thought, in hindsight of course, why wouldn't seeing a crossdressing member of the governing body who drooled and had a penchant for jello not send a red flag that maybe this whole setup was a smidge out of whack? Why didn't the subsequent punishment not enough along with all the other insane shit that happened not be enough to break the camels back?