Posts by rbaitz

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The Trinity Is A False Doctrine!

by non_trias_theos in

christendom teaches that there are three persons in one substance.

yet there is not three gods but one god.

what could be more unscriptural and illogical?

rbaitz

Is the Trinity false?

Is the Trinity false because its uncomprehensible? No. There are many things we cannot fully comprehend yet they exist.

Is the Trinity false because pagan history had something that seemed trinitarian? No. Satan copies off Jehovah God, coming as a angel of light.

Is the Trinity false because the Bible doesn't contain the word "trinity"? No. The word "theocracy" isn't in the Bible however the Watchtower is a theocratic organization. The word "Bible" isn't in the Bible and the word "communion" isn't in the Bible. Does this mean an organization or communion or the Bible isn't true? No.

The early Christians confirmed the Trinity as a doctrine but it was taught since the time of the apostles. The triune God (Jehovah) is in deed One God, yet has manifested Himself in Three eternal Persons.

Let me point out some error of the NWT first. John 1:1- The Watchtower made the claim that the definite article "the" needs to be placed before the word "theos" God in order for it to read "God" (big G). Though this is only the Watchtowers standard alone, they only apply this standard to this one verse. No other verse, pretty discriminatory wouldn't you say? If this standard was applied God the Father would be called "a god" in over 300 places.

Now the correct translation reads, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." John 1:1.

How can the Word be with God and be God at the same time? I don't understand, but I believe the Bible as God's word so I accept what I am being told here because it is beyond my understanding. So I don't understand it, but I can apprehend Jesus is Jehovah God. So the Father is God and the Son is God, but wait, there is only One true God (Jn 17:3) so who is false? Or are they eternal Persons within the Godhead? Persons within the Godhead.

Also in Colossians Jesus is called the firstborn. This is a right to rule word, not a word meaning first created. A great example of first born not meaning first created is found in (Genesis 41:51-52) “Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh: ‘For God has made me forget all my toil and all my father's house.’ And the name of the second he called Ephraim: "For God has caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction." So Manasseh was the firstborn or first created son. The context supports the word firstborn here to mean first created.

Now let’s look at (Jeremiah 31:9) “They shall come with weeping, and with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn.” Ephraim was the second son born to Joseph but he is called the “firstborn” here. This is a right to rule word, meaning chief or leader and in (Colossians 1) the same applies to Jesus being called the “firstborn,” it means the chief one or leader, NOT first created.

Who created all things? Isaiah 44:24 says Jehovah made all things alone. NOBODY helped him. But Jesus is said to have all things in John 1:3 and Colossians 1:14-17. Jesus is Jehovah God.

Jehovah is called the first and last in Isaiah 44:6. But in Revelation 1 and 2 Jesus is called the first and last.

Jehovah is all loving yet Jesus had greater love. No greater love does a man have then to lay down His life for his friends. Jesus laid down his life, so he has greater love then Almighty God? No. Jesus is Jehovah, the Son.

Robin

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The Resurrection of Jesus

by rbaitz in

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have you ever asked yourself, "why was the stone rolled away and the tomb that christ was laid in, empty?

there are many thoughts,.

1. the pharasees stole the body.

rbaitz

Have you ever asked yourself, "Why was the stone rolled away and the tomb that Christ was laid in, empty?"

There are many thoughts,

1. The Pharasees stole the body. If this were so, when the story went out that Jesus rose from the dead, they (pharasees) would have produced the body.

2. The disciples stole the body. Roman solders were the baddest dudes on the planet in those days. If they had fallen asleep they would have been executed. Peter cut off the ear of one man attempting to take Jesus, showing his poor fighting kills. So the disciples didn't fight off the Romans, nor could they then have taken the body.

3. Jesus rose from the dead bodily. Why would God open the tomb unless it was to show others Jesus had risen from the dead, not just in spirit but bodily. Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it again... talking about the temple of His body." John 2:19-21

Even when the disciples were in the presence of Jesus after the resurrection He said, "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." The body He died in is the same body risen from the dead, but it has been changed to a glorified body!

Which view do you agree with?

Robin

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Are there any JW's here?

by rbaitz in

i would like to dialog with any jw's.

i have some questions that i hope you can answer or if you cannot just say so.. my first question:.

jesus is called the son of god (john 3:16).

rbaitz

I would like to dialog with any JW's. I have some questions that I hope you can answer or if you cannot just say so.

My first question:

Jesus is called the Son of God (John 3:16). Next when Jesus became a man (incarnation) He is called the Son of Man. Only when Jesus took upon Himself a body is He called the Son of Man. Now after His death and resurrection He is still called the Son of Man. Doesn't this prove Jesus rose from the dead with a glorified body, and not just spirit? Doesn't this support Jesus' own words, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it again... speaking of the temple of His body"

If Jesus had not risen from the dead with His body (now glorified) why was the tomb open?

Robin