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  Witness Murdered Doing Field Service!!!!!!

  by 7robert7 in

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  i wanted to share a rather sickening and heart breaking story with everyone here.

  a few months ago a young and pregnant jw mother was kidnapped by another women when showing the vehicle that her and her witness husband were selling.

  the killer was another women who couldnt have children of her own,.

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  Hi, 7robert7:

  To those who are so adament in stating that THIS WAS NOT THROUGH FIELD SERVICE, I have one question. Could Michelle Bica had met another pregnant JW women through field service, and befriended her? I say YES. So please dont even try to tell me that because it didnt happen through field service this time that it wont or cant happen in the future.

  Sure, absolutely. Anything is possible. That's like saying "is it possible that you could be killed in a car accident on the way to work today?" The point is, it *didn't* happen through field service. I understand your concern for your wife's safety, and I applaud you for your concern.

  There have been situations where Witness women have been assaulted or robbed while in field service... I seem to recall a JW woman in Western Pennsylvania about 10 years back who was pregnant and was robbed, beaten, and lost her unborn child. These things do happen, but it's few and far between. Otherwise, we'd hear the news reports.

  The Society is teaching a non biblical doctrine, that may very easily cost someone there life some day, I repeat NON BIBLICAL. I WILL NOT
  allow my wife to become a sacrifice at the alter of the Watchtower, if you cant understand the love I have for my wife then so be it.

  The JWs have twisted the scriptures to support their belief of going door-to-door... lemme tell ya, I know, I was there for 20 years! I absolutely understand your love for your wife, and your concern for her safety. (You remind me of my own husband!)

  I urge you to discuss this rationally with your wife, without issuing an ultimatum with regard to her participation in field service. Whenever they incur "opposition," JWs blame "Satan" for interfering with "God's work." Your wife will be supported in her efforts by the others in her congregation, who will tell her that *you*, her dear loving husband, are being "used by Satan" to stop her from "preaching the word." Sick? Absolutely. It's the example of the cult mentality at work.

  So you're in Willowick? I live in Fairview Park! Small world, huh?

  Cheers,
  Reagan

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Stupid JW Parents <oh! excuse me>

  by reagan_oconnor in

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  i don't know what conjured this memory up... maybe it was the cabbage patch dolls/bedtime story thread.... when i was a kid, maybe 10 years old, bodily functions were hilarious in my house (even for us girls).

  it was common for one of us kids to "let one rip" and dad to feign irritation and say, "who did that?!

  " (it was even funnier when the culprit was my mother, who would invariably blame the youngest child for the gasseousness.).

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  I don't know what conjured this memory up... maybe it was the Cabbage Patch dolls/bedtime story thread...

  When I was a kid, maybe 10 years old, bodily functions were hilarious in my house (even for us girls). It was common for one of us kids to "let one rip" and Dad to feign irritation and say, "who did that?! Did you let one?!" (It was even funnier when the culprit was my mother, who would invariably blame the youngest child for the gasseousness.)

  I'll never forget, Dad was reading us a bedtime story (from My Book of Bible Stories)one evening, and I had a little too much soda at dinner. I leaned over on my sister, and let one right on her. We giggled, but Dad didn't think it was very funny. Full of righteous indignation (prime elder material, if you ask me), he said, "I can't believe you would do that! That's like farting on Jesus' sacrifice!"

  Oh my God, it was all I could do to not to burst out laughing right there. My sister started giggling, and that was it. I burst out laughing and got sent to my room, grounded for a week (A WEEK!!) and had to write an essay on "showing appreciation for Jesus' sacrifice."

  Whew...

  Hey! Who let one?!

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  since i sent my DA letter

  by jurs in

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  things have certainly been eventful since i sent my da letter.

  it hasn't been announced at the meeting yet, but plenty seem to know!!!!!

  monday a pioneer sister called me.

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  I haven't sent a letter b/c IMO, that is an indicator that I accept their belief in DF/DA and respect the elder body and the role of the WBTS.

  I don't.

  Why would I do something that they want, when I don't believe their authority is God-given?

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Kingdom SMELLodies

  by reagan_oconnor in

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  which "kingdom melodies" did you most despise?.

  mine had to be #125... the one that talked about "bees that were molested.

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  Oh... and the wedding thing...

  If you wanted to get married in the KH, you weren't allowed to play ANY music except for "Kingdom" music. My sister had the worst music at her wedding. So did I, even though I got married in my mother-in-law's backyard.

  At my second wedding this past September, I had the best selection of music... I downloaded mp3s and got CDs from the library and made my own discs. The best jazz, classical and contemporary stuff that my husband and I love. Mel Torme, Aaron Copeland, Irene Kral, Billie Holliday, Shakespeare in Love, Mozart, Beethoven, Grofe, Strauss...

  I even had Andrea Bocelli's rendition of "Ave Maria" and "Amazing Grace" done with bagpipes. Though good old mumsy was gonna have a coronary!
  
  Reagan

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Kingdom SMELLodies

  by reagan_oconnor in

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  which "kingdom melodies" did you most despise?.

  mine had to be #125... the one that talked about "bees that were molested.

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  Philo, you crack me up!

  How about that one that was four stanzas, then the "postlude..."

  "How happy are... the merciful... in Godseyeztroooly...beautiful!"

  Everyone forgot to sing that last line, which was on the next page. So half the songbooks would be closed and people standing there, and about three people were actually singing, with maybe one or two hitting the screechy high note at the end!

  --Reagan

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  By Their Fruits You Will Know Them

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  hi folks..... i just received this absolutely delightful email this morning:.

  from: [email protected].

  to: [email protected].

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  this (to quote my friend Kent Steinhaug) "braindead moron".

  Ohmigod! I *LOVE* Kent Steinhaug!

  Little story... When I was 19 and just disfellowshipped, I was full of piss & vigor, brainwashed into thinking that the abuse that the elders had just submitted me to was justified.

  I started going on the Internet and researching the JWs. It happened by accident (divine intervention?) that I came across Kent's watchtower observer Web site.

  I raged at him for his "disrespect", and his "misunderstanding" of the "importance" of disfellowshipping for the purpose of "keeping the congregation clean" of people like me. He said a few things that made me think, and then ended his post with "I'll pray for you."

  Which hit me in the head like a brick.

  My own family wasn't praying for me. No one in the congregation was praying for me. They weren't allowed to, because in "God's eyes" I was "spiritually dead."

  It was the seed that was planted.

  After getting reinstated and then walking away on my own, I'm happier than I ever have been. I haven't yet discussed my opinions with my family (Dad's the cong PO and Mom's a full time pioneer), but I don't think it necessary. They've asked, and when the time comes, I'll tell them it doesn't matter what I think about the JWs, what matters is that I love them.

  I e-mailed Kent a few months back, letting him know what he had helped accomplish. He took no credit, just said

  I'm truly happy my website has been to some help for you.

  He's my hero. Him and Randy Watters and Ray Franz.

  =)
  reagan

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Witness Murdered Doing Field Service!!!!!!

  by 7robert7 in

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  i wanted to share a rather sickening and heart breaking story with everyone here.

  a few months ago a young and pregnant jw mother was kidnapped by another women when showing the vehicle that her and her witness husband were selling.

  the killer was another women who couldnt have children of her own,.

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  just an additional note...

  There is video of the funeral, for which 2500 people (JW and non-JW) turned out. Note this from the Plain Dealer:

  Dave Ianelli, a Jehovah's Witnesses elder, traveled from the church's world headquarters in Brooklyn, N.Y., to officiate at the service.

  Yup. This man who knew NOTHING about Theresa Andrews came down from "Bethel" and used her death as an opportunity to preach to the masses. Disgusting.

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Witness Murdered Doing Field Service!!!!!!

  by 7robert7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wanted to share a rather sickening and heart breaking story with everyone here.

  a few months ago a young and pregnant jw mother was kidnapped by another women when showing the vehicle that her and her witness husband were selling.

  the killer was another women who couldnt have children of her own,.

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  Sorry, Robert, but the account you heard was b.s., not unlike the gossip that runs rampant among JWs.

  My sister is related through marriage to the family that had this horrible tragedy happen to them. THIS WAS NOT INITIATED THROUGH FIELD SERVICE!!

  The psycho woman (Michelle Bica) who killed the sister was stalking several pregnant women, all at the same time, for the same purpose. One delivered early, one lost the child through miscarriage, and the last just happened to be Theresa Andrews. She had run into Michelle Bica at a local Wal-Mart, and the two chatted about their pregnancies and due dates -- Michelle faking hers, of course.

  Here, read the stories for yourself: http://www.cleveland.com/indepth/andrews/

  Side note: The father of the child, still a JW, announced that he is getting remarried less than five months after the death of his wife. To a "good JW", according to one of the newspaper reports.

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  Motivated by Pure Love

  by Farkel in

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  love and tolerance for other's religious beliefs:.

  " (the watchtower, 7/1 1967, pp.

  " (the watchtower, 12/1 1961, pp.

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  Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work.

  Since when does belief in the "Organization" determine whether or not I believe the Bible? Since when can these bastards come between me and my relationship with God?

  Man, this b.s. REALLY pisses me off!! Yet, Farkel, I appreciate your research. It's beneficial to review. "Know thine enemies..."

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man
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  OMG!! I finally started Reading C of C

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  i just go ray franz's book crisis of concience.. it's here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0914675044/o/qid=989934775/sr=2-1/107-8614628-6553349.

  i read 6 chapters last night and couldn't put it down!!

  i can't believe that i waited so long to take a look at this unbelievable work.

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  Just got ISOCF yesterday, along with the FreeMinds CD from Randy Watters. The CD is excellent, and I started reading this 700+ page behemoth last night.

  I told my husband that I'm finally over the "Armageddon Syndrome" and boy, does it feel good!

  Cheers,
  Reagan

  "I'm not a woman to be honked at." -- Maureen O'Hara, The Quiet Man