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  i have a short question.. while you were in the truth would have been impressed by the quotes on the quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com page about 1914 and all the other wrong prophecies or would you have simply ignored or denied the accuracy of the quotes?.

  would that have caused doubts or would you have found a way to rationalize the obvious lies?.

  thanks a lot!.

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  if this strong evidence didn't convince you what did?

  is it an accumulative effect? after hearing that the WT is shit for the 1000s time it snaps and you said to yourself ...ok this is indeed nonsense?
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  by Realist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a short question.. while you were in the truth would have been impressed by the quotes on the quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com page about 1914 and all the other wrong prophecies or would you have simply ignored or denied the accuracy of the quotes?.

  would that have caused doubts or would you have found a way to rationalize the obvious lies?.

  thanks a lot!.

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  Realist

  hi everyone!

  i have a short question.

  while you were in the truth would have been impressed by the quotes on the quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com page about 1914 and all the other wrong prophecies or would you have simply ignored or denied the accuracy of the quotes?

  would that have caused doubts or would you have found a way to rationalize the obvious lies?

  thanks a lot!

  Realist
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

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  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  hello amazing,

  let me just make clear that i am not against the US citizens! what i am against is the double standard in US foreign politics.

  as you said germany is still held responsible for what they did 50 years ago (regardless of if the jews were entirely innocent or not). in 1942 the the war against the indians was also only 50 years ago. therefore i think the US didn't have the right to view themselfs as such highly moral people (at least at that time).

  one difference between the indians and the europeans was that the land belong to the INDIANS and not to the europeans. another is the number of victims. how many indians were killed or starved because of the europeans and how many europeans were killed by indians? i htink this is not really comparable.

  and then lastly, how can you hold hussein accountable for occupying kuwait if you at the same time view it ok for the settlers to take the land from the indians? how is this not a double standard?
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  @ fartel:

  LOL
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  fartel,

  i guess not everyone can meet your high standard in addressing questions specifically.

  of course china and korea were occupied previously. did that give the US the right to intervene...maybe...then the question is how you justify the actions of the US killing the indians (which was at that point harld 50 years ago), occupying foreing contires, mexico, cuba etc. supporting currupt regimes all over the place...supporting stalin who killed millions, supporting france and britain who had occupied 2/3 of the world..and who were not exactly nice to the inhabitants of their colonies...

  even if you believe in this nice fairy tale from the world saving USA is there a double standard yes or no???
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  farkel,

  the point is that the US would have given a rats ass about the atrocities commited by the japanese. roosevelt tried to get into the war so that the US could keep control over the region. for economical not humaniterian reasons!

  also consider where the US is and where japan. china was certainly in the hemisphere of japan. the US had no right to get involved as japan would have had no right to get invovled in the US mexican war...or the occupation of cuba etc.

  there are a lot of double standards here!
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  crazy,

  the only problem is that most 3rd world coutries have corrupt regimes (nigera eg.) the governments support the 1st world industry! and the Us government of course supports these corrupt regimes! the average african or arab can't do anything about that. its not like as if the US would ask them : do you want the US industry or british BP etc. to pump out the oil and get 90% of the profit while your corrupt government takes the rest and deposits it on a swiss bank account?

  the us war industry was anything but weak. you cannot defeat a supposedly super power (japan) within 2.5 years plus make an attack on germany if you don't have the industry ready to go.

  Edited by - realist on 6 September 2002 15:22:6
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  crazy,

  unbelievable atrocities usually don't prevent the Us from supporting a government (e.g. cambodia)

  the US wanted the war to gain/kepp control over the region!
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  crazy

  nice theory...the only problem is that the corrupt governments 

  in afrika and asia are usually supported by the US and in many 

  cases also by the europeans. who supported hussein? the saudis? 

  the kuwaities? the israelis? the US of course! so don't tell me 

  the avarage arab has no reason the be pissed at the US

  by the way...who says the us was weak???

  Edited by - realist on 6 September 2002 14:54:6
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  Realist

  random task:

  you are right...there was a conflict of interest between the us and japan...both wanted to be #1 in that region
  the point is...the Us government was not an innocent victim of a surprise attack but had calculated such an attack to be able to enter the war.

  farkel:

  did the us put an embargo against japan yes or no? did the us threaten to block the oil supply to japan yes or no? did the us freeze the japanese bank accounts yes or no?

  the us supplied the UK as well as russia with everything they needed. they also reported the position of german submarines and vessels to the allied forces.

  if you think the Us was neutral before the japanese attack than i am afraid i overestimated you. right from WT truth to US media truth huh?