I wanna put one together on the Watchtower's obstruction of intimacy with God - by mistranslation.
I anxiously look forward to that post.
I agree with others, I appreciate your logic metatron.
in my final years as a witness , i began to have doubts about all the watchtower's claimed prophecies.. .
example: rev.
11 "god will bring to ruin those who ruin the earth".
I wanna put one together on the Watchtower's obstruction of intimacy with God - by mistranslation.
I anxiously look forward to that post.
I agree with others, I appreciate your logic metatron.
today we went out to lunch with my mom.
she invited some friends of hers without telling us.
we thought it was going to be just her and her husband and my brother and his wife.
Grabbing your hand and forcing you to participate in their prayer was rude IMHO. That is no worse than the Jehovah's Witnesses attempting to infringe on your right to choose and instead peddle magazines so as to force themselves on you.
Another example of why I find religion so disturbing and destructive.
Yes, it was rude, and I would have said something directly to his face about it. He disrespected your beliefs by trying to force his own on you.
how can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?.
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.
Let us not forget, these articles as published by the Watchtower Society are direct guidance and knowledge provided by Jehovah God (the only true God) by virtue of his sole channel of representation on earth, the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
*** Watchtower 1964 May 1 p.277-8 Building a Firm Foundation in Christ ***8 God's Word is the basis of our faith. As we pore over its pages our mind is communing with God's. Our faith is established and strengthened. We are "always ready to make a defense" by offering "a reason for the hope" that we hold, and we are thereby equipped to teach others the way of life. (1 Pet. 3:15; 2 Tim. 2:2) Why, though, is such emphasis placed on "accurate" knowledge? Why should such care be exercised in our study of the columns of The Watchtower , and of our application of the Scripture texts to the material under consideration? It is through the columns of The Watchtower that Jehovah provides direction and constant Scriptural counsel to his people, and it requires careful study and attention to details in order to apply this information, to get a full understanding of the principles involved, and to assure ourselves of right thinking on these matters. It is in this way that we "are thoroughly able to grasp mentally with all the holy ones" the fullness of our commission and of the preaching responsibility that Jehovah has placed on all Christians as footstep followers of his Son. Any other course would produce independent thinking and cause division. "Now I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." (1 Cor. 1:10) If all who are associated in the Christian organization have the mind of God and of Christ there will be unity and all will be built up in maturity of understanding.
[Emphasis Added]
*** Watchtower 1959 January 15 pp.39-41 Down with the Old-Up with the New! ***
... but, Who will be Jehovah's prophet to the nations , to speak to them everything that He should command? Who will be the modern Jeremiah? ... So who will prophesy with his message in this time of the end of the nations of this world? ... How was the question answered? ... The fact that decides the answer to the question is, not, Do all the clergy of Roman Catholicism and of Protestantism agree that Jehovah's witnesses have been and are God's prophet to the nations? but, Who discerned the divine will for Christians in this time of the world's end and offered themselves to do it? Who have undertaken God's foreordained work for this day of judgment of the nations? Who have answered the call to the work and have done it down till this year 1958? Whom has God actually used as his prophet?
14 By the historical facts of the case Christendom is beaten back in defeat. Jehovah's witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them. ... It has been because Jehovah thrust out his hand of power and touched their lips and put his words in their mouths...
[Emphasis Added]
So God thinks that women are comparable to cows? Or, if for some reason the Governing Body and the Writin Department would like to retract those statements.. did they misinterpret the message? Or did their Almighty God change his mind again?
I hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
at a number of elder's meetings with the circuit and district overseers, over the years, we were told that the governing body loved us.
the gb were said to truly appreciate all of our hard work in behalf of jehovah god and his organization..............i thought thay you would be pleased to know how the governing body feels about us.
Lady Lee -
No amount of words could get the point across better than your post did.
I agree completely.
Their kind of love is something no one would want. They put on an appearance of caring for you, but when the chips are down.. do they really? NO. Besides, you are only as valuable as how many hours you put in field service (also known as slave labor) and how many magazines you have peddled.
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what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
(same goes for women too!
I think this is a good idea of Ozzie's. I can see him with a little TV segment, dressed in a smoking jacket and a fez, while puffing on a pipe.
LMAO!
Yes that is a funny sight! For some reason I picture the butler Paul Hogan from Joe Millionaire being Ozzie.
most meetings i went to, children were brought to the washrooms in the back to be disciplined.
often i could hear a child yell or cry due to the spanking given by the parent.
people in the hall would have that look on their face meaning that it was alright to discipline a child by spanking him.
Yet another reason why I HATE Jehovah's Witnesses.
Little children have no capacity to understand why they are being forced to sit still for several hours at a time and listen to some man on a platform spew off rhetoric that a child cannot even understand. Then because they ive in to their natural inclination to want to play, they are beaten. In the interest of appearing righteous Dub parents literally beat the living hell out of their kids and it is child abuse.
I saw it with my own two eyes on far too many occasions.
I have not set foot in a Kingdumb Hall in over two years but those memories of seeing children beaten will live with me forever. Hearing a child in the woman's bathroom in the back of the Hall getting beaten so badly he was screaming and you could hear his agonizing cry OVER the Watchtower conductor with a microphone, and for what? Because the child made a few little laughs or noises while sitting in his chair after being forced to be a good little robot for several hours?
Jason - of the Nauseated and Disgusted Class
hmmm, they must not have appreciated "lurkers"... they've set it up now that you have to be a registered member to read the posts.
too bad - it was worth a laugh (or too), and it served as a big reminder why a person would never want to go back!!!
talk about control
Pure Language Bullshit is one of the funniest sites on the Net. It truly is a shame to discover they are now hiding their infamous posts from lurkers.
It was good entertainment to peer into the hypocritical minds of current Dubs.
Look back at some of SYN and my old post's quoting comments from Purelanguage.net
They are a riot!
250 and climbing.
senior member.
what an honour.
Congrats cheese.
I think you have the longest and most unique username on this web discussion board.
What the hell does it mean anyway? How or more importantly why is a cheese a king of some juice? HUH?
and man gained pounds.. .
and woman gained pounds.. .
and woman gained pounds.. .
LMAO
That was genuinely funny!
so, the organization never makes any mistakes, the elders are appointed by god, you should attend all the meetings.
because "it's the truth", blah blah, blah.. .
in my experience, as long as you're not too aggressive about it, there are three serious problems in the organization.
I view them like I view Hitler's SS. Were some of them decent, misled people? Maybe! Did they support a system that hurt people? Yes! Do I have contempt for them? Yes! If they leave the SS and make amends for their crimes and start to treat me, and people who are important to me, nice, will I view them different? Maybe. Will I ever really trust them? Possibly.
Amazing analogy garybuss. I know exactly how you feel and share the same sentiment.
I personally hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
Are some of them naive and misled? Perhaps.
Nevertheless, do they willfully support an organization which murders children by application of an ever-changing blood doctrine? Do they protect the image of the organization concerning the epidemic of pedophilia and subsequently utilize "theocratic warfare" in order to lie to the public about the problem? Do they lie to your face about contradictions in their own doctrine? Do they disrespect people's wishes to not be disturbed at their home? Do they advocate shunning and dividing families by virtue of a disfellowshipping practice? Do they attempt to shame people? The answer to all of the above is YES. People who encourage or participate in such behavior have earned my hatred. These practices are at the very center of JW doctrine.
Also consider that with all of the abundant information readily available to any person who seeks it out (books and internet), I have difficulty possessing sympathy for people who are willfully ignorant. If they devote so much time (hundreds, even thousands of hours a year) to field service and attending meetings, but do not devote the time to properly research the religion they are devoting their life to... I have no capacity to show compassion for someone who does not do something for themselves.
I have not spoken with my brother for over 2 years because of Jehovah's Witnesses and their doctrine. I never did anything to hurt him, but because I chose to not be a Jehovah's Witness he looked me in the face and said that it would be a shame when my grandfather was resurrected after Armaggedon and how the family would have to explain to him why I was not there because I was unfaithful. He also made it painfully clear that he would teach my infant nephew as he grows up that I am an evil person and I would never have any association with him. Is that showing love? You see Jehovah's Witnesses are made evil because of the practices they either personally commit or condone.
I hate Jehovah's Witnesses and all they stand for. I hate ALL Jehovah's Witnesses. PERIOD. It is a cult that has cost unimaginable heartache and death throughout decades. Consider that next time you wonder why people hold so much animosity towards a corporation hellbent on keeping naive slaves who peddle magazines.