Stinky says:
Congrats! I recently made a 1600 mile move for school myself. Good luck!
So you made it to Florida to attend UCF?
Reborn2002
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Falling off the face of the earth
by asleif_dufansdottir ini hardly feel as if i've been here long enough to merit this announcement, but just in case.... i'm going to be moving 1400 miles in less than 2 weeks.
between getting ready to move, finishing up stuff at my workplace, moving, and starting grad school, i have no idea how much i'll be around.. .
so, just in case i disappear and someone wonders where...that's where =).
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What stupid question would you like to ask?
by logansrun in"do jws use toilet paper?
"are witnesses allowed to swim in the ocean?".
"can sisters wear the color red since it signifies harlotry?
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ROFLMAO @ Expatbrit
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The Aug. 1, Watchtower is Lying - Again!
by metatron inthe august 1, 2003 issue of the watchtower is lying -- again.. on page 20 it states,.
"they [jws] have no paid clergy".
this is false.
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bttt
This is yet another example of how the Watchtower Society is a cult of LIARS and HYPOCRITES.
Excellent post metatron, as usual.
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What stupid question would you like to ask?
by logansrun in"do jws use toilet paper?
"are witnesses allowed to swim in the ocean?".
"can sisters wear the color red since it signifies harlotry?
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Ok Joanna, that is the single scariest picture I have ever seen.
I was preparing to eat dinner, but glancing at that made me lose my appetite.
However, in some cultures I suppose self-mutilation of that sort is the custom. Others (Valis comes to mind) can provide links showing that some primitive tribes tattooed their faces and considered it art.
Or perhaps this person had a psychological disorder in which they derived pleasure from the pain of the piercing and marking.
Either way, still gross to me.
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Is the Watchtower a form of addiction?
by expatbrit inhello.. this morning i glanced at the jw calendar for this month.
it has one of those spreads about how becoming a jw improves your life.
you know the type of thing: "when i learned from the jw's i was able to give up smoking/boozing/drugs/coffee/chocolate/naked bungee jumping etc etc".. i wonder if maybe the reason some people have these experiences is because, by becoming a jw, they simply replace one addiction with another?.
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Is being a Jehovah's Witness in some aspects a form of addiction?
In my own opinion, I would say yes.
People become addicted and accustomed to believing they are superior in possessing the "only real truth" as if they are more important or enlightened than the 6 BILLION people who are NOT JW's.
They also become accustomed to not having to think for themselves, and grow comfortable in the routine of day-to-day JW-ism's.
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4 BILLION A MONTH!!!! What a worthless waste!
by ashitaka inthis pisses me off so badly.
here i am, struggling just to survive and pay my bills, and they're wasting money on this worthless occupation.
i have trouble buying my bread, i'm thinking of getting a pizza delivery job at night, and i'm a working professional who already leaves at 6 and gets home at 6, and they're spending four billion dollars on this.
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Further evidence Donald Rumsfeld is excellent at misassessing situations and giving information which turns out to be erroneous.
U.S. General Says Iraq Has Become a Guerrilla War
2 hours, 46 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo! WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. troops are facing a classic guerrilla war in Iraq ( news - web sites) spearheaded by Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites ) loyalists, and American forces need to adapt their tactics to crush this increasingly organized resistance, the head of the U.S. Central Command said on Wednesday.
Reuters Photo Latest news: · FBI Probes Iraq Intelligence Mishap
AP - 5 minutes ago· Lawmakers Question CIA Chief on Iraq Claim
Reuters - 9 minutes ago· General Says Iraq a Guerrilla War, New U.S. Death
Reuters - 10 minutes agoSpecial Coverage This contrasted with an assessment given by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on June 30 that it was not "anything like a guerrilla war or an organized resistance."
But Central Command chief Gen. John Abizaid, who commands U.S. forces in Iraq, said a guerrilla war is exactly what U.S. troops are confronting.
"It think describing it as guerrilla tactics being employed against us is, you know, a proper thing to describe in strictly military terms," Abizaid said during a Pentagon ( news - web sites) briefing.
He said U.S. forces are fighting remnants of Saddam's Baath Party throughout Iraq.
He said mid-level officials of Saddam's government, including from the old intelligence and security agencies and the Special Republican Guard, "have organized at the regional level in cellular structure."
Abizaid said they "are conducting what I would describe as a classical guerrilla-type campaign against us. It's low-intensity conflict in our doctrinal terms, but it's war however you describe it."
"The level of resistance, I'm not so sure I would characterize it as escalating in terms of number of incidents. But it is getting more organized and it is learning. It is adapting -- it is adapting to our tactics, techniques and procedures. And we've got to adapt to their tactics, techniques and procedures," Abizaid said.
I do not know who is more senile... Ronald Reagan or Donald Rumsfeld.
He tends to forget what he says earlier or makes statements which are completely opposite of the truth. Maybe he should try working as Information Minister for the Baath party, he would fit right in with telling lies.
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An elder wants to study with me...please help!
by shotgun inafter my recent barrage of elder visits i've been told that to truly show i'm willing to work at restoring my faith a bs is needed.. i want to be able to pick a few recent publications (last 10 yrs) and sit down with him and examine all the quotes and references in the publications to show how the society has misquoted and misrepresented so much in their publications.
do you know which publications would be best..keeping in mind the reference material will also have to readily accessible to be of any use.
i don't think searching on the internet will be acceptable to him.. .
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shotgun says:
SWORDOFJAH I appreciate your comments about making up my own mind but if you are part of Gods true organization what the hell are you doing surfing a site not sanctioned by the WT society. If your brothers and sisters found out you would be looked upon as no better than the apostates that frequent this site as you called them.
How true. The Watchtower Society expressly states that it is forbidden for Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing to knowingly associate and mingle with known apostates, disfellowshipped, and disassociated individuals. It has also been said that loyal Witnesses would be wary of the Internet and it's snares, much less taking the time to post on a website not sanctioned by the WT Society discussing JW topics with apostates.
Butterknife of Jah is a hypocrite. Ignore him.
After all, according to Jehovah's Witness beliefs, they are discouraged from even thinking for themselves.
*** w67 6/1 p. 338 Move Ahead with Jehovah’s Organization ***
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How will we put these four things into effect? First, study: We may think of study as hard work, as involving heavy research. But in Jehovah’s organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to do that very thing, to help you who do not have so much time for this, these preparing the good material in The Watchtower and other publications of the Society. But you do not study enough? Take this suggestion: Often the very best and most beneficial studying you do is that done when you read a new Watchtower or Awake! or a new book with the joy of getting the new truths and a fresh view. You remember the points. You talk enthusiastically to others about them. So try this: Pick up each Watchtower or Awake! as it comes and read it, just for the joy and pleasure it gives. Remember, you are not sitting down to study, just to enjoy the information. This will increase your joy of reading and will give you incentive for more definite, organized study. Jehovah wants you to enjoy your study. He does not want it to be drudgery to you. He is the happy God, taking pleasure in providing all this rich spiritual food.—1 Tim. 1:11; Acts 20:35. -
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JWs never really learn how to research
by Elsewhere inremember when you were in and you needed to "research" something?
we turned to the "publications" and simply believed whatever they told us to believe.. as jws, we never were taught how to go out and really research something by looking into the history.
we were always spoon-fed what they wanted us to think and believe.. *** w67 6/1 p. 338 move ahead with jehovahs organization ***.
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Ahh yes Elsewhere, one of my favorite quotes in WT literature.
A telltale sign of a true Jehovah's Witness? Their inability to think for themselves, or more frighteningly, their willful compliance to NOT think for themselves.
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Editorial comments from the almighty
by Xander in.
okay, okay, the joke is pilferred, but, really, c'mon.....
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Reborn2002
LOL Xander.
Looks like God decided to flip us the bird.
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4 BILLION A MONTH!!!! What a worthless waste!
by ashitaka inthis pisses me off so badly.
here i am, struggling just to survive and pay my bills, and they're wasting money on this worthless occupation.
i have trouble buying my bread, i'm thinking of getting a pizza delivery job at night, and i'm a working professional who already leaves at 6 and gets home at 6, and they're spending four billion dollars on this.
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On Yahoo News today:
Presidential Elections - AP Democrats Blast Bush, Tenet on Iraq Intel 1 hour, 18 minutes ago By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer
CHARLESTON, S.C. - Two of the Democratic presidential candidates called for the resignation of embattled CIA ( news - web sites) director George Tenet on Wednesday as the rest of the field faulted President Bush ( news - web sites) for misleading the public about Iraq ( news - web sites).
Latest news: · Bush 'Trafficked in Untruth' on Iraq - Kerry
Reuters - 11 minutes ago· Missile Fired at U.S. Plane in Iraq
AP - 12 minutes ago· Pentagon had not expected Iraqi security institutions to collapse: Abizaid
AFP - 14 minutes agoSpecial Coverage "The president has to accept some responsibility," Joe Lieberman ( news - web sites) told supporters during a campaign appearance. "This president seems to be saying, 'The buck never stops here.'"
The Connecticut senator spoke as Tenet testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee about questionable intelligence the White House used to justify war with Iraq. Bush's claimed in his State of the Union speech that Iraq sought uranium from Africa — a statement apparently based on a series of documents now known to be forgeries.
Tenet accepted responsibility for allowing the reference to get in the speech, though officials with the National Security Council, the State Deparetment and the White House staff were also involved in drafting the address.
Lieberman's rival, Howard Dean, said he has maintained for several days that Tenet should leave.
"The reason the director should step aside is that he is now part of the shifting of the blame," the former Vermont governor said in an interview with The Associated Press.
Dean, an outspoken opponent of the U.S.-led war against Iraq, argued that Tenet shouldn't receive all the blame, and faulted the National Security Agency, State Department and the vice president's office.
Lieberman, one of the most forceful supporters of the war among the nine Democratic candidates, said Bush must be held accountable for misleading the public about his justification for military action. Democrats have suggested that Tenet has become the administration's fall guy, taking the blame to shield Bush from political fallout.
"If, in fact, it was his fault, then George Tenet has to be held responsible," Lieberman said during a campaign appearance at Hyman's Seafood restaurant.
In an interview afterward, Lieberman said he would seek Tenet's resignation.
"The White House doesn't accept responsibility. Tenet steps forward and accepts responsibility. And then the president says he hasn't lost confidence in the CIA. Something's wrong here," Lieberman said.
"I guess I'd say under these circumstances, if I was president and I was put in a position to make a statement in a State of the Union to the American people that was not truthful and the CIA director came forward and accepted responsibility, I'd ask him to leave," the senator said.
The nine Democratic candidates have seized on the misleading intelligence to attack Bush on his greatest political strength — the war on terrorism — and raise larger questions about his credibility on domestic and foreign policy issues.
The White House dismissed the criticism as revisionist history from several Democrats who last fall backed the congressional resolution given Bush the authority to wage war. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the administration does not have a credibility problem.
"The president has been very straightforward about this from the beginning. He laid out a very compelling case, a very clear case," McClellan told reporters.
In a little-noticed Virginia appearance on Tuesday, Lieberman turned up the pressure on Tenet.
"Unlike the current president, I would not continue to have confidence in my CIA director, and would ask him to resign," Lieberman said. He added: "This president ought to hold someone accountable for causing him to say something that was not true."
Sen. John Kerry ( news , bio, voting record) of Massachusetts, during a campaign appearance in New York, focused on what he called Bush's credibility gap on national security as did John Edwards, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
"George Tenet has accepted his responsibility, and that's good," the North Carolina senator told reporters outside the committee room. "But at the end of the day, the president when he speaks, has to take responsibility for what he said. The responsibility is not the CIA's, it's not anyone else's. It is the president's responsibility. And those 16 words were spoken by the president and he has to take responsibility for them."
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Associated Press Writers Will Lester and Nedra Pickler in Washington contributed to this report.
