Posts by Reborn2002

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My mum was visited by jws yesterday.

by badboy in

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they said something about babylon.iraq and jonah visited ninevah+armaggedon.. they speculated about what adam told god in the garden of eden

Reborn2002

2 jws turned up 2 C my mum,understand!

I got that part. The topic of your post was:

My mum was visited by jws yesterday.

No problem.

Then in the content of your post, you said:

They said something about Babylon.Iraq and Jonah visited ninevah+ARMAGGEDON.
tHEY SPECULATED ABOUT WHAT aDAM TOLD gOD IN THE gARDEN Of eDEN

There is where you lost me and probably everyone else who read this. Your comment made it appear as some type of equation or turn of events that was being prophecied and was directly related between Babylon, Iraq, Jonah, Armaggedon, and what Adam told God in the Garden of Eden. Or did you rather mean that they only discussed those particular topics but they were not directly related? You have to admit man, the way you typed that out made no sense. I am not trying to be rude, I am only seeking clarification so that if other people wish to discuss this with you, they can understand what you meant.

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Do you think its unfair to pull the rug from

by Brummie in

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under a jehovahs witness and tell them the truth about the wts?

or should we leave them to it?.

on a personal note, i'm glad i got the rug pulled, i came down with a good ole bump but it sure was worth the injury.

Reborn2002

It depends on the individual's circumstance. I would not consider it unfair in any scenario. The question is, is it the best thing for that person?

Some people are balanced enough that they are capable of deductive reasoning, open-minded, and willing to listen. Anyone who ever left the JW's that found something wrong with doctrines or practices had to be honest enough with themselves to admit that there was a problem. People who are more independent (and why do you think WT forbids independent thinking?) eventually find their way out. If a person is able to make a clean break successfully without repercussions which will affect them for a lifetime (unless they are willing to accept those parameters) definitely should be informed so as to have the choice.

However you also have people whom I call willfully naive, and of the herd-mentality. They do not think for themselves, and instead prefer to be told what to do. To quote an old catchphrase, ignorance is bliss.

You must also take into consideration age and family circumstances. Would it really be best for an 80 year old man with children (and grandchildren even, all JW's) to be awakened to the reality of the WT cult an be inspired to leave when he has no friends or association outside of Jehovah's Witnesses and would also lose his family?

You have to consider the individual, then you can determine if it is "fair" or "unfair" to expose them to the truth about the Jehovah's Witness religion.

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My mum was visited by jws yesterday.

by badboy in

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they said something about babylon.iraq and jonah visited ninevah+armaggedon.. they speculated about what adam told god in the garden of eden

Reborn2002

At the risk of being perceived as either mean (for asking this) or stupid (for not comprehending it)... I am asking this with all sincerity:

What the heck are you talking about? Your post made no sense.

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

Reborn2002

Jayson-

A word of advice. Learn to formulate coherent, complete sentences with remotely proper pronunciation otherwise you detract from your credibility as an intelligent individual and make yourself look bad. I am not trying to be insulting, I am simply stating that if you expect to be taken seriously, you should consider working on your presentation.

Now, allow me to pick apart your comments piece-by-piece.

The team is the get bush out team. That is all you care about. And Washington State where the fat charley is from always is taken by the non-republican.

All I care about? Hardly. Resorting to ad hominem attacks by referring to an individual as fat is certainly a good way to earn respect. Nevertheless, this is not about "hating" George Bush. It is about hypocrisy and a double standard that is readily apparent.

And yes the "hitler" thing was not literal. Although a dead person would probably make more sense to you than Bush.

Is that the best you can do? Make outlandish remarks comparing someone to Hitler and then referencing corpses as an attempted insult?

And reborn stick it with the dixie chicks. That is so played out. It is all of you who say what can be said or done about what people say. You are the anti-freedom folk and to stupid to see it.

On the contrary, my inference of the Dixie Chicks was very relevant. You call me anti-freedom? The very reason I mentioned them was due to the fact they were censored on radio stations for exercising their right to freedom of expression. Who really is too stupid to see it?

I have no issue with the political stars. But I also have no issue with those that do. Its a country where the freedom goes all ways. Bush even said he has no issue with the Chicks. The only issues is with people like you all. No one makes you watch Fox or listen to talk radio. The only reason why you give a shit is you can't stop them. You just can't stand it that others do watch listen and agree. I don't even listen to Rush. I don't like him. If he were canceled I could not care less. But I sure as hell don't bitch and moan like you and Charles when others don't let you have your way.

It does not necessarily matter if you as an individual like Rush Limbaugh. Can you not comprehend a legitimate analogy and comparison which shows a double-standard? Apparently not.

Let me spell it out for you.

Dixie Chicks + criticize Bush once = censored (for using freedom of expression) and labeled unpatriotic

Rush Limbaugh + criticize Clinton every day for years = acceptable, not censored, considered patriotic

I am not concerned about stopping anyone Jayson. What you fail to comprehend is I have a problem with a double-standard. I encourage everyone to have the right to freedom of expression, as long as those freedoms are able to be expressed from both sides of the political spectrum evenly.

Who is bitching and moaning? Throughout this entire thread I have given facts to support my statements. Where are yours?

When you are capable of deductive reasoning and analytical research then step up to the grown up table. Until then you are making yourself out to be a fool.

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Say goodbye...Armaggedon 15/ 05/ 03

by refiners fire in

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ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.

apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.

it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.

Reborn2002

Where is You Know when you need him?

After all, the aliens called the Zeta make predictions very similar to those made by the Watchtower Society in years past. They seem to be capable of pinpointing down to the exact year and season when the world will end.

Remember, compliments to Farkel, prophecies by religious fanatics are all "Bible-based (TM)"

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Say goodbye...Armaggedon 15/ 05/ 03

by refiners fire in

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ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.

apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.

it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.

Reborn2002

Where is You Know when you need him?

After all, the aliens called the Zeta make predictions very similar to those made by the Watchtower Society in years past. They seem to be capable of pinpointing down to the exact year and season when the world will end.

Remember, compliments to Farkel, prophecies by religious fanatics are all "Bible-based (TM)"

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Survivor Amazon comments

by Mulan in

i was surprised no one commented on survivor after sunday's finale.

were you surprised that jenna won?

it should have been matt or rob.

Reborn2002

Over 21 million viewers beg to differ.

Survivor is run internationally if I am not mistaken. People can view it in the United States, Australia, and China as examples.

Just in United States households, 21,000,000 out of 270,000,000 is less than 1 out of 10.

If you count the global demographic, 21 million out of several billion (yes, with a B) with access to the program.. 1 out of every 300+ ?

As I said. In general, few people care.

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Survivor Amazon comments

by Mulan in

i was surprised no one commented on survivor after sunday's finale.

were you surprised that jenna won?

it should have been matt or rob.

Reborn2002

Survivor? With all due respect Mulan, I do not think many people care.

Survivor was one of the first so-called reality (even though nothing about these shows is real or resembles "real" life) shows and it was a hot commodity three years ago. What was this? Survivor 4 or 5?

It has lost it's luster. In the wake of a thousand clone shows (even Celebrity in the Amazon, how amusing) it has just become regarded as old news.

I highly doubt to see very many more seasons of this show.

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Does Everyone Leave For The Most Noble Of Reasons?

by Englishman in

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some of us left simply because we didn't believe it any more.. some us couldn't stand the hypocrisy.. some of us left so's to have more sex.

some of us saw another light shining brighter.. some of us wanted more material possessions.. some of us needed more control over others than the borg would allow.. what do you think?.

Reborn2002

Stinky-

No. Your picture looks the same to me. A cartoon rendition of an African-American female with glasses on.

PS. Check your Inbox. Im sending you a private message.

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

Reborn2002

Yes, Trauma-Hound, I noticed Jayson said that as well.

T H actually has it right. In 2004 He and I will matter. Simon you still will not. And Charley's team will probably take Wa state as his team always does. (Assuming he votes) He will because the population is centered in a few counties. Most of the State votes one way and three counties make the choice. Right now the anti-bushies would vote Hitler in to get Bush out. I hope they fail. Thus far polls show that he is unbeatable. I think that 2004 is a long ways off and anything can happen between now and then.

Jayson, you are demonstrating your naivety and ignorance by making immature statements like that.

I vote for candidates based on their platforms, not blindly following party lines or partisan politics.

Anti-Bush? You betcha. Look at his track record. I see you conveniently avoided everything I said regarding George W. Bush's history. I wonder why that is? Right-wing conservatives or Bush-supporters tend to do that.

Voting for Hitler to remove Bush? Surely you are being satirical, because if you are being serious, then you are making yourself look foolish by making such generalizing, outlandish statements.

Lately it seems to be a bit one-sided when it comes to civil liberties and the ability to express your opinion in this country. It is taboo for individuals to criticize George W. Bush ONCE in a public forum (see Dixie Chicks, who were censored by radio stations for their statements, despite freedom of expression) yet Rush Limbaugh can go on his radio show reaching millions and criticize Bill Clinton every day for a decade, and that is acceptable and even viewed as patriotic!

Don't get me wrong. I think Bill Clinton in some aspects was an embarrassment to his country regarding morality. However, morality has nothing to do with the capacity to satisfactorily do one's job. Look at Bush's track record. Every corporation he held an executive position with LOST MONEY or FOLDED.

Your willful ignorance and propensity to label people amuses me.