extremely sad as the news is coming out.
6 police shot in louisiana and 3 dead so far.. i'm waiting for a response from the nra stating that we are safer when we are all armed.
the police had guns and the shooter(s) had guns so i guess they are good with it.. our thoughts and prayers go out to the families affected.. rub a dub.
Yet again the sheer lunacy of allowing citizens to own assault rifles is on display. All of the recent mass murders in USA have involved assault rifles.
Just to be clear, I am not talking about guns in general. I am talking about a category of weapon that is not a practical self-defence weapon or a practical hunting weapon or farm tool. It is a weapon designed to kill humans in large numbers, quickly. Why would a lawful citizen need to own such a thing?
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
KateWild - easy answer. No space or time before the "big bang" (which was an expansion, not an explosion). Easy to find further info on this.
cantleave - please be respectful with those photos. Remember, He was boiled for your sins!
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
He started as one simple speghetti hoop which unlooped to form a string. This string then split multiple times to form HIS body.- cantleave
KateWild -Well do you have any evidence to support your statement, like a peer reviewed science paper?
Actually we have something far better. A detailed account written ages later by a person who didn't witness any of it.
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
I see...but you still say "What caused him to come into existence" which implies a beginning though...no matter what we imply the term "cause" is...
Good point. I rephrase:
If God/FSM exists, who or what causes Him to exist?
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
Cantleave - If god exist outside our universe and space and and time do not apply, then she can't exist - because existence requires time - you can't exist for zero seconds.
Not a problem. How she exists or not is something we cannot grasp because we mere humans are limited by the concept of "existence".
(I am being sarcastic, by the way.)
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
Hi notsurewheretogo, I think we are stuck on semantics.
By analogy, the leaves on the shrubs outside my window are green. Chlorophyll causes them to appear green. The word "cause" in that sense is not time-dependent. It is true, whether the plants have been there for a week, of for all of eternity. This is what I meant by "cause".
By the way, for me this is just an intellectual debate. I am not out to wind anyone up.
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
You haven't read my post.
Actually I did read your post and understood your point. When I wrote "If God/FSM exists, who or what caused Him to come into existence?" I didn't mention "when", or a concept of time. In other words, I am highlighting the cause/effect issue, not the before/after issue.
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
You can't understand a God in terms of human boundaries...
Yes I was told something like that, long ago as well. It is a non-answer. Either God/FSM exists or doesn't exist. If God/FSM exists, who or what caused Him to come into existence?
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
Damn good question. Yet to see a sensible answer to this one.
i read this article on exjwreddit and thought it was so well written, that just summed everything up.
i've cut and paste it.
here is the link to it on reddit.. https://m.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4spw99/where_have_all_the_jws_gone/.
Just to add a point, the reddit author may well be correct about when he/she says, "There are just not as many "older ones" at the Kingdom Halls." It may be that those older ones that no longer attend still nominate themselves as being one of Jehovahs Victims Witnesses whenever questioned as part of a survey, such as Pew Research.
