remember, remember - darkspilver or darkspliver couldn't even remember his username!
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282501/calebs-aeroplane-returns-w14-11-15-p-16.
let's consider spilver or spliver's posts - since he likes to do it to others!.
I have read many of his posts. I have no problem with him. He backs up every point he can with detailed info.
He is a certain type of personality, possibly Aspergers, definitely a pedant. I think this site is definitely better off having someone like him keeping the rest of us on our toes. I can see that he might irritate some people with his abrasiveness, but I am totally fine with it.
i had the shocking thought that wt may never die due to its free labor realestate building empire.
an the lawyers drain the swamp quicker than the new building program..
There is a chance it might go bankrupt. I don't think it will, but with such poor management, it is a possibility. Unlike a lot of other religions, it is very centrally controlled, and bankruptcy would be more devastating than if it occurred in another religion. Further, I think the 7 popes at Warwick will sell every Kingdom Hall they can, before having their snouts pulled out of the trough, so there would probably not be much infrastructure left to continue the high control, if it came to that.
I think a more likely scenario is just a gradual decline, as ardent believers die off, to the point that even shunning is an ineffective tool because shunning is too isolating for the shunner.
i've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source: .
the demise of printing literature in the u.k. is being brought forward by one year - to march 2018. graphic design and printing support will go too.
large numbers of "disposable" bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them.
sbf and darkspilver have already said more eloquently what I would have said.
Watchtower lost the practical ability to charge a fixed price for its magazines in 1990, which damaged the business model. In the last decade the business model was destroyed when people started to refuse to pay anything for magazines. Shortening the magazines, consolidating the printing presses, and offering them in electronic format only stems the losses. They are in decline, and haven't found a solution as yet.
As sbf says, Chelmsford was conceived and planned before the collapse in the business model became apparent. As darkspilver points out, the Borg has shrunk the project in response. Now the Borg has to make the decision of whether to shut it down and wear the loss, or waste further funds building a big white elephant. I have a low opinion of the Borg's management ability, and my guess is that they will fall for "sunk cost fallacy" and actually build the white elephant.
One final point; a lot of people here think the Borg is morphing into a real estate business. Maybe that is the plan, but a lot of real estate companies with better management go broke. Let them try. It will probably hasten the demise.
my little brother on the left exited the cult after 29 years.. me in the middle.. my older brother on the right stopped his bible study after discovering ttatton youtube videos.. never lose hope guys!.
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I see a picture of a man who is articulate, decent, probably charismatic, and is pulling his family members one by one and others that he can, out of the clutches of the Borg; bookended by his brothers in that photo. Strangely, he looks just like I imagined, apart from hair colour.
Pale emperor, I salute you (but not your fashion sense; tracksuit!). Please keep up the good fight.
absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.
i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.
i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.
Awesome! Congratulations!
tragic occurrence:.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-scalise-shot-in-virginia-aide-also-hit/ar-bbcfakv?li=bbnb7kz.
i saw another report indicating that the gunman may have targetting gop members.
Personally, I don't think the problem is so much with the second amendment itself, but in the way it has been recently interpreted. I just can not accept that the founding fathers intended a "well regulated militia" to include every lone nutter who wanted to own an assault rifle. What does the word "regulated" mean?
i might as well chuck in a few stats at this point. I am sure everyone knows them and most of you ignore them:
USA: 89 guns per 100 people,
Canada: 31 guns per 100 people
NZ: 23 guns per 100 people
Aust: 15 guns per 100 people
Homicide rate per 100,000 population (guns only):
USA: 2.97
Canada: 0.51
NZ: 0.16
Aust: 0.14
So broadly, more guns in circulation mean more gun homicides, but that does not explain the ridiculously high number of gun homicides in USA. I suspect it mainly relates to the type of guns available in USA, gaps in regulation, and a madcap notion by some gun owners that they are self appointed guardians against government tyranny.
You don't have to eliminate guns to eliminate most gun homicide. Eg Australia has one twentieth of the homicide rate from guns that USA has. In Australia, you can still own as many guns as you like. However, if you want to own a gun, you have to go through a lengthy process to get a licence, including explaining why you want one. You can't just get one because you feel like it, but anyone with a genuine need (farmers, sports shooters, hunters etc) has little trouble. Most, if not all, police carry guns when in uniform.
i was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??
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Most people I have spoken to know absolutely nothing about JW's, apart from them being annoying door knockers. They know nothing about shunning or it being a high control group. Some know they are against blood transfusions and think they are nutters for that reason.
As a result, extremely few people know that there is an ex JW community. Some people are gobsmacked or plan don't believe me when I tell them about it.
i think though that Watchtower is just one of many high control groups that most people know nothing about. They differ from the others in that they are one of the largest, and have left a larger paper trail than most. Thankfully the general public seems to be coming more aware of high control groups and the dangers associated with them.
tragic occurrence:.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-scalise-shot-in-virginia-aide-also-hit/ar-bbcfakv?li=bbnb7kz.
i saw another report indicating that the gunman may have targetting gop members.
An actual REAL tyrannical government would disarm the people first, doesn't that make more sense???
To me, that mindset is at the core of the problem. Most Western democracies operate fine, with the population disarmed. They are not tyrannys.
When you have a mentality that the second amendment:
(a) means that any individual nutter should be permitted to own an assault rifle; and
(b) is for the purpose of keeping the government in check,
it is inevitable there are going to be incidents like this. I am surprised they do not occur more often.
I should add that I don't know what type of rifle was used in this case, and I am not someone who advocates a complete ban on all guns. I do think that gun laws in USA are absurd, the current interpretation of the second amendment is absurd, and both combined cause tens of thousands of deaths; deaths that shouldn't occur in a wealthy modern democracy.
tragic occurrence:.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-scalise-shot-in-virginia-aide-also-hit/ar-bbcfakv?li=bbnb7kz.
i saw another report indicating that the gunman may have targetting gop members.
Wasn't the gunman just exercising his second amendment right as a ciitizen (as argued by Republicans and decided by Republican Supreme Court judges), to keep the government in check?
i guess those Republicans should be glad the gunman didn't exercise his constitutional right to use an assault rifle (a weapon the Republicans made legal in USA but with no practical use apart from killing lots of people quickly).
for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.
etc.
thank you.
Here is something that might interest for nowwhat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDFs5b-aNT4
It seems someone hacked into the sound system at a KH during a meeting, and inserted recordings from the Aust Royal Commission, etc. I suspect some here might not approve of this sort of activism, but I couldn't help but see the funny side of it.
