Posts by shepherdless

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US Republican congressman, others injured by shooter in Washington DC

by sir82 in

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tragic occurrence:.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-scalise-shot-in-virginia-aide-also-hit/ar-bbcfakv?li=bbnb7kz.

i saw another report indicating that the gunman may have targetting gop members.

shepherdless

An actual REAL tyrannical government would disarm the people first, doesn't that make more sense???

To me, that mindset is at the core of the problem. Most Western democracies operate fine, with the population disarmed. They are not tyrannys.

When you have a mentality that the second amendment:

(a) means that any individual nutter should be permitted to own an assault rifle; and

(b) is for the purpose of keeping the government in check,

it is inevitable there are going to be incidents like this. I am surprised they do not occur more often.

I should add that I don't know what type of rifle was used in this case, and I am not someone who advocates a complete ban on all guns. I do think that gun laws in USA are absurd, the current interpretation of the second amendment is absurd, and both combined cause tens of thousands of deaths; deaths that shouldn't occur in a wealthy modern democracy.

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US Republican congressman, others injured by shooter in Washington DC

by sir82 in

jw
friends

tragic occurrence:.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-scalise-shot-in-virginia-aide-also-hit/ar-bbcfakv?li=bbnb7kz.

i saw another report indicating that the gunman may have targetting gop members.

shepherdless

Wasn't the gunman just exercising his second amendment right as a ciitizen (as argued by Republicans and decided by Republican Supreme Court judges), to keep the government in check?

i guess those Republicans should be glad the gunman didn't exercise his constitutional right to use an assault rifle (a weapon the Republicans made legal in USA but with no practical use apart from killing lots of people quickly).

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Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

by nowwhat? in

for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

etc.

thank you.

shepherdless

Here is something that might interest for nowwhat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDFs5b-aNT4

It seems someone hacked into the sound system at a KH during a meeting, and inserted recordings from the Aust Royal Commission, etc. I suspect some here might not approve of this sort of activism, but I couldn't help but see the funny side of it.

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Did Watchtower get any money from the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation?

by jwfacts in

the holocaust victim assets litigation (swiss banks) cv-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the holocaust.

as stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 mar 2006);.

"this is the official information website for the holocaust victim assets litigation against swiss banks and other swiss entities.

shepherdless

I can't find the report I referred to in my earlier post. It was an attachment to a post on the JW Recovery site, which no longer exists.

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I appreciate "our" free speech.

by The Rebel in

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i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

shepherdless

Hi Rebel,

I would be disappointed if you or anyone else left because they felt their opinion was in the minority. Further, I think these pages would be pretty boring if they were merely an echo chamber of one viewpoint.

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Did Watchtower get any money from the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation?

by jwfacts in

the holocaust victim assets litigation (swiss banks) cv-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the holocaust.

as stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 mar 2006);.

"this is the official information website for the holocaust victim assets litigation against swiss banks and other swiss entities.

shepherdless

I thought I read a report a few years ago, giving quite a bit of detail about the actual distribution to the JW's who were victims. A surprisingly high proportion of the victims were from Eastern Europe, Ukraine, etc.

I don't recall Watchtower itself getting any money. However, there was a paragraph in the report to the effect that Watchtower would only identify a victim for compensation if the victim was still a JW at the time money was being handed out (around year 2000). In other words, if a JW victim had DA'ed or was DF'ed after 1945, the JW victim got nothing.

I am only going by memory, but there was definitely such a report and it was in the public domain somewhere. I will see if I can find it.

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JW Wife not listening

by rathernotsay in

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hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

shepherdless

And one last thing; tell her she can't go into your "man cave" without a tea towel on her head.

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JW Wife not listening

by rathernotsay in

jw
friends

hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

shepherdless

Hi rathernotsay

a also have a zealous JW wife trying to indoctrinate our kids. I also have never been a JW.

My first comment is that you seem to be mixing JW issues with other issues you are having.

It would seem to me that the first decision you have to make is whether you are going to stick with this girl. If you are going to break up, it would be better to get that part over with a.s.a.p., rather than let it drag out. In making that decision, remember that it is unlikely she will ever change the way she is; it is either cope with that, or leave.

If you are going to stick it out, I would suggest that you tell her that she can do as much pioneering as she wants, as long as she continues looking after the kids. Try to make it her job to take the kids to any sport or after school activities. Ie don't challenge her religious beliefs, but don't let her avoid her responsibilities either. Make sure you keep control of the finances, as well.

In relation to the non JW issues (throwing out your stuff, kid in bed etc), I have the impression from what you write (and I could be completely wrong) that you are calm and level headed, and try reasoning to persuade others of your point of view. Sometimes the only way to get the message through is to get (or feign) vocal anger to communicate something is not okay. It shouldn't be like that in the real world, but it is.

The other thing to do is to "know the enemy", by reading sites such as this and jwfacts and learn as much about this religion as possible. It helps for dealing with your wife's friends and also in bringing up your kids.

Finally, you would have read that the majority of kids brought up in this religion drop it as an adult. I have a suspicion that the drop out rate is much higher, if one of the parents is worldly, involved in bringing up the kids and is demonstrably a good person.

I hope that helps.

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Solar power

by pepperheart in

hi its been on the bbc website that in the uk they got 25% of the power that the whole country needed for friday just from solar power alone.

shepherdless

I used to joke that a solar panel was a photovoltaic device the converts short wave solar radiation into government subsidies.

However, I don't think like that any more. Although technology has not changed much, if any, in at least thirty years, the costs of panels has dropped dramatically. The economics are complicated, but there is not much a need for artificial subsidy any more to make it worthwhile.

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Church turns out to be sex club

by oppostate in

most churches can be thought of as social meeting places, a structure where congregations come together and share a common bond.

a “church” in tennessee, though, has taken togetherness to a whole new level.

nashville authorities say a building registered as a church has actually been hosting late-night swingers parties, where lewd acts have been taking place,.

shepherdless

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