Posts by Corney

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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

by Tahoe in

http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

helena, mont.

— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

Corney

The case was previously discussed here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5480640985169920/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-turn-over-internal-documents-re-childhood-sexual-abuse

For further reading:

Supreme Court of Montana, case OP 18-0534 - WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC., CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, and THOMPSON FALLS CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, Petitioners, v. TWENTIETH JUDICIAL DISTRICT, SANDERS COUNTY, HONORABLE JAMES A. MANLEY, Presiding Respondent (Watchtower v. 20th Judicial District)

Petition for writ of supervisory control and motion for stay of proceedings filed by Watchtower, CCJW, and Thompson Falls congregation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_PlopfQcg_vtT1vfcahTnfQF-_TLG1oN/view?usp=sharing

Response to petition (James A. Manley, presiding judge): https://drive.google.com/file/d/12wF53oorT53ZnNQJDNKhAvOeU6OBaV9b/view?usp=sharing

Order denying and dismissing the petition for writ: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nxl_uTp7sFld_DlQDmBoTBhfghMuQ2QK/view?usp=sharing

The first two documents are very informative.

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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

by Not_Culty in

https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

Corney

To be fair, that has always been the JW stance - there are lots of JWs taking some pretty heavy opioids.

Yes, but I doubt they have any "Scriptural basis" for this exception.

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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

by Not_Culty in

https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

Corney

So, drugs are prohibited by Bible but they are allowed when prescribed by a doctor.

Divorce is prohibited by Bible unless it's necessary to save the live, health, material or "spiritual" well-being.

Blood is prohibited... without any exception.

Where is the logic?

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Oktoberfest exJW Community: Saturday 22nd September 2018

by Darth FayDehr in

read all about it in this pdf: https://1drv.ms/b/s!arekzxkzlp8yettbolw5x5vy73s.

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Corney

The attached table contains a mistake, i.e. double-counting; compare rows 259-279 and 280-300.

And why the number of created congregations wasn't mentioned? It also looks bad for the organization since only 9 out of 194 ones are German-language: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6316808367767552/reasons-concluding-that-watchtower-serious-financial-trouble?page=16#5706778462388224 (the figures are bit outdated - stats from the most recent bulletin wasn't taken into account).

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Humans only survive for 3-5 days without water...

by purrpurr in

and yet today's watchtower and indeed the bible condemns the israelites for moaning about having no water!

it's never occurred to me how unjust this is!

and how could a so called loving god not provide a basic human need?!.

Corney

Surprised no one here remembered about another cruel and narcissistic god of people in a desert.

"Do not, my friends, become addicted to water, or it will take hold of you and you will resent its absence!"

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

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Anyone notice there has not been any announcement for the annual meeting broadcast this year?

by nowwhat? in

let the speculation begin!.

Corney

careful
Here are some thoughts:
https://rmovideo.blogspot.com/2018/08/jw-annual-meeting-2018-new-updates-speculations-provisions.html

To add some context:

https://rmovideo.blogspot.com/2017/06/jw-annual-meeting-2017-new-updates-speculations-provisions.html

http://rmovideo.blogspot.com/2016/09/jw-annual-meeting-2016-new-updates-speculations-provisions.html

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Can you help with this?

by vienne in

i need a scan of this: the apocalyptic interpretation of history of american premillennial groups, phd dissertation by carl ludwigson, 1944. if you have it, please contact me..

Corney

Vienne,

Do you still need a scan?

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German branch stats: the number of KHs has decreased by 1/8 during the past 7 years

by Corney in

jw
friends

according to its own statistics, the jw organization in germany had 1075 kingdom halls in august 2011, 997 khs in november 2016, and 940 ones in august 2018. .

the average decrease was 1.25 khs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 khs per month during the past two years.. .

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16znuhftwpwq1nf_9jidc_srarst0errjssgcuxkbl8a/edit?usp=sharing .

Corney

_Morpheus, all the figures are from the website of Jehovah's Witnesses in Germany where the official bulletins of Jehovas Zeugen in Deutschland, K. d. ö. r. are published.

The google sheet contains all links as follows:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070711035045/http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/akt/zwv/default.html (this link works only being clicked on the google sheet and I have no idea why)

https://web.archive.org/web/20120127173330/http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/Statistik.18.0.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20151120010610/http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/Statistik.18.0.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170103005649/http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/Statistik.18.0.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20180812100950/https://www.jehovaszeugen.de/Statistik.18.0.html

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German branch stats: the number of KHs has decreased by 1/8 during the past 7 years

by Corney in

jw
friends

according to its own statistics, the jw organization in germany had 1075 kingdom halls in august 2011, 997 khs in november 2016, and 940 ones in august 2018. .

the average decrease was 1.25 khs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 khs per month during the past two years.. .

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16znuhftwpwq1nf_9jidc_srarst0errjssgcuxkbl8a/edit?usp=sharing .

Corney

According to its own statistics, the JW organization in Germany had 1075 Kingdom Halls in August 2011, 997 KHs in November 2016, and 940 ones in August 2018.

The average decrease was 1.25 KHs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 KHs per month during the past two years.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ZNUhfTwpwq1Nf_9JiDC_srarst0ErrJssGCuXkbL8A/edit?usp=sharing

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JW-RUSSIA.org cross image

by neat blue dog in

i was just browsing the russian jw site and saw this image that appears to represent christian persecution by showing handcuffs in front of prison bars that appear to form a cross.

which would be weird because they don't even believe in the cross, or maybe it was clip art from another source and they didn't notice.

or last and most likely i'm seeing things that aren't there 😜.

Corney

Oh Jesus, the local site team used this image in 2 of nearly 50 articles published on the site during this summer. It's one of the first appropriate stock photos they found. Finally, do you really think those very few Christians and non-believers browsing this site don't know who JWs are and will be deceived by a thumbnail (apart from the fact that not every person would even see a cross on it)? Is it really a big deal?