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2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

by Not_Culty in

https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

Corney

It looks like the same letter was sent to congregations in Zimbabwe. Is it a new worldwide policy?
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/bok4ty/leak_watchtower_zimbabwe_change_gdpr_eu_rules_for/

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2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

by Not_Culty in

https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

Corney

slimboyfat Are publishers even allowed to ask the householder if they can take a note for a return visit. The letter doesn’t make any allowance for that. Apparently it’s no notes at all!

Yes, because every publisher taking notes - even when there's a householder's consent - bears all responsibilities of controller under GDPR, jointly with local congregation and national entity.

Presumably they have sent letters to foreign language congregations to explain how on earth this is supposed to work.

Ghettoes and cart ministry?

sir82 Did you see this from the reddit thread: If they preach to an EU citizen living in the US (or anywhere else), and they make a GDPR complaint, the EU can fine the branch over there.

Art. 3 of the GDPR says otherwise.

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Christian or Atheists?

by Skipper254 in

in my brief time on this site, i've come to realize that most people who have been shunned or stray away from the jehovah witnesses normally end up having no faith at all.

my curiosity has led me to the conclusion that the gb has created more atheists than believers...... .

Corney

Pew Research Center, 2014 Religious Landscape Study (NB: margin of error nearly +/- 7.5 percentage points):

Among those raised as Jehovah's Witnesses, now:

- 34% still identify themselves with their childhood religion,

- 31% belong to other religions, and

- 35% are religious "Nones" (unaffiliated) - the highest rate among Christian denominations.

https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/chapter-2-religious-switching-and-intermarriage/pr_15-05-12_rls_chapter2-02/

Similar rates were observed in 2007:

https://www.pewforum.org/2008/02/01/chapter-2-changes-in-americans-religious-affiliation/

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Reddit is Joining EFF to Fight the WatchTower!

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

a must read update to darkspilvers subpeona.

reddit has joined the eff's effort to fight the jehovah's witness organization, watchtower bible & tract society, who subpoenaed redditor darkspilver's identity using tenuous claims of copyright infringement.. set to go live in 5 hours!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyvcy0pkok.

Corney

In case somebody wants to read case documents:

EFF's motion is available on the Foundation's site (see the link Zindagi posted above), and other documents can be found here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/8509534/in-re-dmca-subpoena-to-reddit-inc/

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FreeAgent--See If This HLC Brochure Helps!

by Atlantis in

the hlc brochure; (workbook to assist with conscience matters involving blood).

leaves no conscience choice for jw doctors or jw nurses in this matter.. page 11, in the 2nd box it states:jehovah's witnesses and health"jehovah's witnesses, some of whom are physicians and nurses, are known worldwide for their rejection of transfusions involving whole blood or primary blood components.

does their united stand against this practice stem from man-made doctrine or a belief that a person's faith can heal medical ailments?

Corney

Page 10 indicates the brochure merely quotes from August 2006 Awake! And the quote can be understood as "JWs don't accept transfusions, even those who are medical professionals themselves".

Also, Correspondence Guidelines (as of 2011) stated: "A Christian who is a nurse or a doctor respects the Scriptures and therefore would not recommend or order a blood transfusion for a patient. If he or she as an employee is not responsible for deciding the matter and is directed by a superior to administer a transfusion to a non-Witness, whether to obey is a matter for personal, conscientious decision.—w99 4/15 28-30; w75 4/1 215-16" (p. 15).

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Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

by Anders Andersen in

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friends

many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

(i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

Corney

Thank you for this great work.

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Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

by Anders Andersen in

jw
friends

many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

(i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

Corney

Anders, after all the scandals, did donations in the Netherlands in 2018 increase or decrease?

P.S. Add New Zealand to your list: https://www.register.charities.govt.nz/CharitiesRegister/Search

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Orange County, CA: New Case and New Legal Tactic

by Corney in

john roe 1 vs. defendant doe 1, congregation is a child sexual abuse case pending before the superior court of california, orange county (judge john c. gastelum).

jury trial is scheduled on june 15, 2020, but it may not occur: the judge is expected to decide on multiple pre-trial motions including motion for sanctions filed by plantiffs; next hearing on pre-trial motions is scheduled on may 14.. case docket is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dbqcronnkeax492pshgwpuoubt-xaabz/view?usp=sharing .

case documents are available for purchase here: https://ocapps.occourts.org/civilwebshoppingns/search.do (case number 30-2014-00741722-cu-po-cjc).. during the course of this litigation the court ordered watchtower to produce molestation complaints it received, redacting only names of victims and elders handling the matters.

Corney

John Roe 1 vs. Defendant Doe 1, Congregation is a child sexual abuse case pending before the Superior Court of California, Orange County (Judge John C. Gastelum). Jury trial is scheduled on June 15, 2020, but it may not occur: the judge is expected to decide on multiple pre-trial motions including motion for sanctions filed by plantiffs; next hearing on pre-trial motions is scheduled on May 14.

Case docket is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DbQcRONNkEax492pshgWPuOubt-xaaBZ/view?usp=sharing

Case documents are available for purchase here: https://ocapps.occourts.org/civilwebShoppingNS/Search.do (case number 30-2014-00741722-CU-PO-CJC).

During the course of this litigation the Court ordered Watchtower to produce molestation complaints it received, redacting only names of victims and elders handling the matters. In August of 2018, Watchtower produced the documents with redactions of all identifying information.

In September, six Jehovah's Witnesses mentioned in the (unredacted) documents - three victims and three victims' relatives including an individual "accused of, investigated for, and exonerated of, sexual abuse of his daughter" - filed a motion for protective order before the Court "to assert their privacy rights, their clergy-penitent privilege and religious freedom objections to disclosure of the documents".

Moreover, on August 23, 2018 they (later, an elder joined them) filed federal lawsuit against the Californian Court seeking injunction on enforcement of the discovery order at issue, "with respect to the unredacted names or identifying information of Plaintiffs or their family members".

Plaintiffs are members of some of the congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses that supplied the documents at issue in the State Litigation to Watchtower. Each one of them is named, identified, or described in the documents that must be produced pursuant to the May 17 Order, and each one of them faces a serious risk that their privacy will be violated if the documents are produced without the redactions requested herein. Three of them are victims whose names will be redacted, and yet each faces a risk of identification because the names of their family members will not be redacted. The other three are family members of victims who are concerned for their own privacy and for the privacy of their victim family members. Plaintiff Doe 7 is a congregation elder. All seven Plaintiffs are mentioned in the documents in the context of sexual abuse, assault, and molestation—allegations that expose Plaintiffs to extreme harassment, humiliation, ridicule, social stigmatization, and physical and emotional distress, and that infringe upon their religious freedoms.

The plaintiffs also requested a judgment declaring the order null and void. On January 14 the case was dismissed without prejudice.

Interestingly, plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit were represented by Robert Crockett, a business lawyer and a member of the LDS Church (long time ago, he even was a Mormon bishop), and his law firm.

The case documents I was able to obtain:

Initial Complaint

Amended Complaint

The Discovery Order

Motion to Dismiss filed by Defendant, the Superior Court

Declaration and Memo filed by Zalkin Law Firm on behalf of Intervenors, Plaintiffs in State Lawsuit

P.S. I have to mention Mark O'Donnell who first wrote about the federal lawsuit, even though I dislike him and he didn't provide case name or number or any case documents.

Sorry for my poor English.

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