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  Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules

  by Tameria2001 in

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  https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.

  i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.

  it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.

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  The order: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.336935/gov.uscourts.cand.336935.18.0.pdf

  In balancing the harms, while considering the fair use defense, the Court finds that they tip sharply in Darkspilver’s favor. However, the Court notes that Darkspilver’s concerns stem largely out of his fear that those in his congregation will discover his identity and shun him. If Reddit reveals Darkspilver’s identity to Watch Tower’s counsel, under an “attorney’s eyes only” restriction, then any harm to Darkspilver would be alleviated. This restriction would enable Watch Tower to pursue its copyright claim without causing harm to Darkspilver.

  Therefore, the Court HEREBY GRANTS IN PART and DENIES IN PART Darkspilver’s motion to quash. Reddit shall respond to the subpoena and provide the requested information to Watch Tower’s counsel. However, only attorneys of record in this matter may obtain information about Darkspilver’s identity. Watch Tower’s attorneys of record shall not to disclose Darkspilver’s identity to anyone else without approval in a Court Order from this Court. For example, Watch Tower’s attorneys of record may not disclose Darkspilver’s identity even to its client, staff, or expert witnesses without approval in a Court Order from this Court.*3

  If Watch Tower elects to file a lawsuit against Darkspilver, the Court directs Watch Tower to seek to file the suit under his pseudonym and to keep his actual identity under seal, for attorney’s eyes only. Moreover, Watch Tower is admonished that any violation of this Order will be sanctioned and that this Court retains jurisdiction over any potential violation of this Order.

  *3 Watch Tower claimed at the hearing that it plans to disclose Darkspilver’s identity to its forensic experts so that Watch Tower can determine how Darkspilver obtained confidential information in the chart and prevent further disclosure of that confidential information. This purpose is not related at all to a copyright issue, and for that reason, the Court rejects that form of disclosure.
  
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  Correction: the Zimbabwean letter (mentioned in the post above) was really sent by mistake. Therefore, the new policy applies only to European countries.

  
  
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  St George of England, I just googled it and... at least, today I learned something new.

  Anders Andersen, in my opinion, it's too broad. I also believe door-to-door note keeping isn't a serious privacy issue, in contrast to Bethel databases. Finally, I'm skeptical about GDPR in general.

  I don't oppose the judgment and its consequences - frankly, I'm glad to see the recent changes - but I also don't consider this as a victory or something similar.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  sir82, you can read about this case and background in CJEU judgment and (non-binding) opinion of its Advocate General. In aftermath of this judgment, the Finnish Supreme Administrative Court uphold decision of the Finnish Data Protection Board "prohibiting the Jehovah’s Witnesses Community from collecting or processing personal data in the course of door-to-door preaching carried out by its members unless the legal requirements for processing such data laid down".
  

  Some interesting legal blogs about the CJEU judgment:

  https://leidenlawblog.nl/articles/knock-knock.-whos-there-the-data-protection-directive-95-46

  https://leidenlawblog.nl/articles/the-jehovahs-witnesses-religious-community-and-european-data-protection-law

  https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=77ddd905-24e9-445f-be42-7d014c38f549
  

  https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/insights/blogs/data-protection-blog/joint-data-controllers-yet-more-data-protection-uncertainty

  https://www.loyensloeff.com/en-us/news-events/news/cjeu-further-clarifies-key-concepts-of-data-protection-law
  

  http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2018/07/is-data-protection-coming-home-cjeu-on.html
  

  https://verfassungsblog.de/die-zeugen-jehovas-und-das-datenschutzrecht/ (in German)

  https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/cercle/opinion-rgpd-sous-traitance-et-coresponsabilite-contrainte-ou-opportunite-139579 (in French)
  

  It's worth noting (despite I have strong personal reservations about the judgment) that the proceeding before Finnish data protection authorities was initiated by a local ex-JW activist. Read more here: https://johanneksenpoika.fi/tietosuoja3/index.html (in Finnish)
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  keinlezard Same letter in France

  And also in Finland, Baltic states, Poland and Spain. And in all EU and EEA states as well.

  Interestingly, French letter was sent to congregations in metropolitan France and French overseas departments, whereas France branch territory also includes two sovereign non-European nations, Mauritius and Seychelles.

  I'm curious whether this letter could be sent to Zimbabwean congs by mistake
  
  
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  It looks like the same letter was sent to congregations in Zimbabwe. Is it a new worldwide policy?
  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/bok4ty/leak_watchtower_zimbabwe_change_gdpr_eu_rules_for/
  
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  slimboyfat Are publishers even allowed to ask the householder if they can take a note for a return visit. The letter doesn’t make any allowance for that. Apparently it’s no notes at all!

  Yes, because every publisher taking notes - even when there's a householder's consent - bears all responsibilities of controller under GDPR, jointly with local congregation and national entity.

  Presumably they have sent letters to foreign language congregations to explain how on earth this is supposed to work.
  

  Ghettoes and cart ministry?

  sir82 Did you see this from the reddit thread: If they preach to an EU citizen living in the US (or anywhere else), and they make a GDPR complaint, the EU can fine the branch over there.
  

  Art. 3 of the GDPR says otherwise.
  
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  Christian or Atheists?

  by Skipper254 in

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  in my brief time on this site, i've come to realize that most people who have been shunned or stray away from the jehovah witnesses normally end up having no faith at all.

  my curiosity has led me to the conclusion that the gb has created more atheists than believers...... .

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  Pew Research Center, 2014 Religious Landscape Study (NB: margin of error nearly +/- 7.5 percentage points):

  Among those raised as Jehovah's Witnesses, now:

  - 34% still identify themselves with their childhood religion,

  - 31% belong to other religions, and

  - 35% are religious "Nones" (unaffiliated) - the highest rate among Christian denominations.

  https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/chapter-2-religious-switching-and-intermarriage/pr_15-05-12_rls_chapter2-02/

  Similar rates were observed in 2007:

  
  

  https://www.pewforum.org/2008/02/01/chapter-2-changes-in-americans-religious-affiliation/
  
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  Reddit is Joining EFF to Fight the WatchTower!

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  a must read update to darkspilvers subpeona.

  reddit has joined the eff's effort to fight the jehovah's witness organization, watchtower bible & tract society, who subpoenaed redditor darkspilver's identity using tenuous claims of copyright infringement.. set to go live in 5 hours!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyvcy0pkok.

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  In case somebody wants to read case documents:

  EFF's motion is available on the Foundation's site (see the link Zindagi posted above), and other documents can be found here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/8509534/in-re-dmca-subpoena-to-reddit-inc/
  
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  FreeAgent--See If This HLC Brochure Helps!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  the hlc brochure; (workbook to assist with conscience matters involving blood).

  leaves no conscience choice for jw doctors or jw nurses in this matter.. page 11, in the 2nd box it states:jehovah's witnesses and health"jehovah's witnesses, some of whom are physicians and nurses, are known worldwide for their rejection of transfusions involving whole blood or primary blood components.

  does their united stand against this practice stem from man-made doctrine or a belief that a person's faith can heal medical ailments?

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  Page 10 indicates the brochure merely quotes from August 2006 Awake! And the quote can be understood as "JWs don't accept transfusions, even those who are medical professionals themselves".

  Also, Correspondence Guidelines (as of 2011) stated: "A Christian who is a nurse or a doctor respects the Scriptures and therefore would not recommend or order a blood transfusion for a patient. If he or she as an employee is not responsible for deciding the matter and is directed by a superior to administer a transfusion to a non-Witness, whether to obey is a matter for personal, conscientious decision.—w99 4/15 28-30; w75 4/1 215-16" (p. 15).