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  Just saw this on Facebbok, by Barbara Anderson, Disfellowshiping cancelled by "worldly" Court !

  by Phizzy in

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  2. child-abuse

  excuse the translation to english not being perfect ,.

  barbara anderson.

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  Frankly, I cannot find this on Mrs. Anderson's page. Is it a "friends only" post?

  Also, it's difficult to understand what exactly happened from that post. After googling, it appears that both Mr. Pucci and Mr. Fallacara eventually lost their cases. But at one point, on 1 June 2004, a judge granted a preliminary injunction to Mr. Pucci and suspended his expulsion from Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses (Italy) on procedural grounds. That decision was reversed six months later. As noted above, both cases were decided in favor of the JW organization.

  http://www.infotdgeova.it/un%20sospensione%20revocata.html

  https://bari.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/04/13/news/fu_ripudiato_dagli_altri_testimoni_di_geova_dopo_l_addio_alla_congregazione_la_cassazione_non_va_risarcito_-162923812/
  

  And then Mr. Fallacara allegedly lodged a complaint before the ECHR. The only source I found doesn't look credible, but even assuming he really did it, I bet the European Court will dismiss his application either on procedural grounds or as "manifestly ill-founded".
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses commission secret report highly critical of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on 14 november 2018, australian-based barristers david bennett ac, qc and james gibson presented to watchtower australia and the jehovah’s witnesses organisation their commissioned review and opinion on the findings and recommendations of the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse as it related to jehovah’s witnesses.. .

  the review entitled “review of the commission’s investigation into jehovah’s witnesses and its ensuing reports” was divided into four parts, as follows:.

  part one considered the history and powers of royal commissions in general.. .

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  slimboyfat,

  Whose point? Watchtower's? I don't know, the only thing I'm aware about is that this report was provided to the Utrecht University research team and to the Dutch Minister of Justice. I think they are going to use it to rebute or challenge the ARC findings before various authorities and bodies.

  smiddy3,

  And did he lie, misrepresent facts of the case, mislead the court and other parties or use frivolous arguments? Are you aware of any unethical behavior on his part (it isn't unethical to represent "bad guys")? So far, his legal opinion in the "Scientology case" was unanimously accepted by the highest court of Australia.

  To clarify, I'm not saying his opinion is absolutely correct. My point is that it isn't meritless.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses commission secret report highly critical of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on 14 november 2018, australian-based barristers david bennett ac, qc and james gibson presented to watchtower australia and the jehovah’s witnesses organisation their commissioned review and opinion on the findings and recommendations of the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse as it related to jehovah’s witnesses.. .

  the review entitled “review of the commission’s investigation into jehovah’s witnesses and its ensuing reports” was divided into four parts, as follows:.

  part one considered the history and powers of royal commissions in general.. .

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  Corney

  Why not publish the full report? It's available online, and since I don't need to promote my site by all means, here is the original source:

  https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/documenten/rapporten/2020/01/23/tk-bijlage-6-the-final-report-of-the-royal-commission/tk-bijlage-6-the-final-report-of-the-royal-commission.pdf (the official site of the Government of the Netherlands)

  slimboyfat If you pay people they will tell you what you want to hear. What’s the point?

  David Bennett is one of the most experienced and reputable lawyers in Australia, he is almost 80 year old, and I'm pretty sure he isn't in need for money. Is it fair and reasonable to dismiss his legal opinion just because it was commissioned by Watchtower?
  
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  The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?

  by JWB in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the rise and rise of paul gillies?.

  here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .

  2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.

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  Corney

  In case someone is interested about it, Paul Gillies' official title is the director of the Office of Public Information of the World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  slimboyfat Has anyone got video or audio of Paul Gillies?

  There will be a possibility to watch and hear him two months later, online or maybe even in person (in London).
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  Notes From an Elders Meeting

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so in this past week i came across a stash of my old elder stuff.

  i've scanned a bunch of notes and agendas, and public talk outlines.. check out an agenda and my notes from the meeting here: https://imgur.com/gallery/qqmyczn.

  i’ve put an explanatory note on each image in imgur.

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  @SBF I don't know the exact answer. I think it isn't impossible. But attempts to compel it will raise First Amendment issues, and courts are pretty reluctant to investigate into church decision-making process. Time will show.
  
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  Notes From an Elders Meeting

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so in this past week i came across a stash of my old elder stuff.

  i've scanned a bunch of notes and agendas, and public talk outlines.. check out an agenda and my notes from the meeting here: https://imgur.com/gallery/qqmyczn.

  i’ve put an explanatory note on each image in imgur.

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  slimboyfat, I think some GB minutes and memos may become publicly available - in not so distant future - in the course of lawsuits or state/federal investigations.
  
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  German businessman registers "Watchtower" and "Awake!" trademarks, expects offer from JWs

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  seriously.. https://www.wuv.de/marketing/unternehmer_sichert_sich_marken_der_jehovas.

  businessman felt harassed by jws, so he found that word marks "der wachtturm" and "erwachet!

  " (german versions of "the watchtower" and "awake!

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  lastmanstanding, Watchtower Germany lodged a request for cancellation with the German Patent and Trade Mark Office pursuant to §§ 50 and 54 (and §8(1)(14), I guess) of the Trade Marks Act.

  Fulano, do you mean the trademark filed six months ago and registered three months ago in respect of class 37 (construction) services? Is my guess correct? If yes, would you please allow me to post the link? It's so funny.
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  German businessman registers "Watchtower" and "Awake!" trademarks, expects offer from JWs

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  seriously.. https://www.wuv.de/marketing/unternehmer_sichert_sich_marken_der_jehovas.

  businessman felt harassed by jws, so he found that word marks "der wachtturm" and "erwachet!

  " (german versions of "the watchtower" and "awake!

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  Corney

  Unsurprisingly, the businessman's trademarks were cancelled pursuant to § 48 of the Trade Mark Act; this dispute apparently was settled.

  https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/register/3020172142460/DE

  https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/register/3020172142401/DE

  Moreover, Watchtower Germany registered WACHTTURM (Watchtower) and Erwachet! (Awake!) trademarks in Austria, Germany and Switzerland (file from TMview database).
  
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  Montana News

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2020-01-08/court-reverses-35m-verdict-against-jehovahs-witnesses.

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  Doubting Bro, open-minded people don't bother themselves to read legal documents. They just call judges whose decisions make them unhapy "fools" or, like some redditors, "retarded", and even probably "bribed". Shame on you!
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  Current JW growth in the United States in historical perspective and in comparison with other groups

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  current jw growth is slower than during most of their history.

  the only probable exceptions are following 1975 when there was a brief worldwide decrease, the late 1920s when around half of the members left the movement, perhaps around the 1917 schism, and various schisms during russell’s time.

  there were also periods of sluggish growth during the 1950/60s and around 2000. .

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  Just to outline what the current growth in the USA is, in the last half-decade (2014-9) the average number of publishers has grown by only 1.76%; in 2009-14, the growth was 7.41%, in 2004-9 - 10.17%, and in 1999-2004 - 5.54%. The number of congregations in 2019 was 10.3% lower than in 2016 and 2.3% lower than in 2009, and the number of newly baptized was 17.9% lower than 10 years go and 13.0% lower than 20 years ago.