Even when I still thought it was God's organization I would inwardly roll my eyes at the disproportionate praise that was lavished on these movies and dramas. It made me think of the way a parent may praise their child's macaroni art as nothing short of a masterpiece.
Saethydd
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Assembly Dramas:They were so bad.... but.... you waited for them to break away from the monotony!
by RULES & REGULATIONS in.
you do remember the four day assemblies... sitting outdoors being fried in the sweltering heat,getting heat stroke in the middle of july in an outdoor baseball stadium.sitting outdoors from 9:45 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. was so much fun while you wore a suit,long sleeve shirt and a tie while your brain fried.
mom's who had children to take care of,lug strollers,feed all the kids,take them for bathroom breaks and try to not faint from the heat.. the sound and audio was always breaking and barely audible from the wind,airplanes flying over and (if you attended the cicero,illinois circuit )you would smell horse manure from the horse stables next door.. you know that you are a jehovah's witness.... when the only excitement waiting for the drama... where brothers and sisters dress up in ancient cloths,fake beards,fake rocks and fake soldier uniforms and wave their hands incessantly to pretend that they are acting out a drama.the excitement was unbearable!.
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Saethydd
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God answers JW prayers about trivialities while ignoring the abuse of little children
by jambon1 ini've heard many experiences about how jehovah answers the prayers of jw's - convention items about pioneers gas bills, car repairs, job opportunities.
now, if this is true, you are actually stating that god has directly intervened in your life.
taken action on your behalf.
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Saethydd
Even when I was deeply in the Organization I rarely if ever prayed to God to help me through anything or believed that he was responsible for making anything in my life easier. Because I could never see why God in all his wisdom and power would help me with trivialities while people in other nations starved and died. The only exception to this was an issue I had that led to me being reproved and placed on "restrictions" for several years, and of course God never did help me overcome it.
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Gods Kingdom rules book, what did they leave out?
by Crazyguy inhaven't read this book but i guess it the watered down version of thier history.
what did the leave out and lie about in this publication?
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Saethydd
The Reluctant Apostate by Floyd Evans would be a good place to start for all the stuff they left out.
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Saethydd
I guess you always try [email protected] or other random @jw.org email addresses
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Here is your typical Kingdom Hall of Jehovah'w Witnesses attendance!
by RULES & REGULATIONS in.
kingdom hall south dakota live stream.....i found this video on youtube.com.
it reminds me of my old kingdom hall where hardly anyone is sitting in the front rows and doesn't seem like they have a large membership.most kingdom halls sit around 200 people at the most and seem to have a hard time filling the seats.. my old congregation had around 45 members when i left 4 years ago.we always seemed to have a hard time meeting the monthly expenses.some months,i was told that some elders would contribute extra money so the congregation would not be in the negative for the month.. how many members did your congregation have while you were still attending and did meet its expenses for the month?.
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Saethydd
The congregation I attend has something like 120-30 publishers I think, though it is the only congregation in the county, an hours drive to the next nearest.
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Was There ANYTHING Positive That You Experienced Because of Being a JW?
by minimus inwas there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.
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Saethydd
It gave me decent public speaking skills, (though it countered that by hindering my interpersonal communication skills by burdening me with the idea that I need to be subtly steering the conversation towards religion so that I could preach to them.)
Other than that I can't really think of much it has given me that I wouldn't have gotten anywhere else, except maybe that my family is closer than most, but that tends to be the case when you all view 99.9% of the world as people to be avoided wherever possible.
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Round and round the not so marigoround
by Coded Logic ini find most theist arguments to be either confused or dishonest at best.
and most of them i regard with mild annoyance.
but there is one track of thinking that is so stupid it really gets under my skin: when, in order to try and prop up "faith", people try and tear down reason and critical thinking.
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Saethydd
Maybe you find the theistic response which questions human rationality most troublesome because you find it difficult to formulate a "reasonable" response.
Somehow we don't find it difficult to accept that a dog will never work out a value for Pi or compose a sonnet.
Yet we find it more difficult to accept the possibility that questions of divine being, ultimate existence, purpose and evil, may be beyond human understanding.
Why do we presume that the human mind is equipped to settle such matters one way or another?
You have something of a point, the issue, however, is that there are many people claim to have answers to the questions of divine being, ultimate existence, purpose, and evil. So human reasoning can and should be used to discount the teachings of one who was/is almost certainly either a charlatan or a delusional person.
I'm not saying one needs to convince every theist that they are wrong, but if a religious person tries to debate me I certainly won't hesitate to rip apart their flimsy arguments.
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I need some advice please
by JaMu ini am a non-jw girl dating a jw man for almost 5 years now since end of high school.
most of the relationship has been long distance.
when we started dating, we wanted a serious long term relationship that would end in marriage one day.
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Saethydd
Judging from your account of things it doesn't sound like this man is a devout JW, so it is possible that over time you could get him to celebrate holidays (though I personally wouldn't bet on that happening.) I have trouble believing that he will legitimately refrain from pressuring you to become a JW down the line, it may be subtle but he almost certainly will.
If he does not though I would advise you expect it from his family. They are trained to proselytize and love nothing more than an audience that can't simply ignore them. If he isn't a very active member himself his family may even try to convert you to get to him. This process will begin with something called "love-bombing," during which JWs are going to shower you with attention while they are testing the waters by overtly or covertly trying to discuss religion with you. If they think you can be converted they will continue the love-bombing until they succeed. If they determine you aren't "receptive" they will likely stop and have very little to do with you. However, expect the same "testing of the waters" with any JW you come into contact with.
If I were you I would consider carefully whether you can handle the above situation and the situations outlined by other people in this thread before you commit to marriage with this man.
You said that this man is your first boyfriend and that you've been together for five years, so because you have only ever been with one person, I would also recommend some serious introspection on your part. Determine for yourself what you really want in a life-partner, and don't purposely list the qualities of the person you're already dating. (Ideally, this is done while one is single.) Try to be balanced in this exercise, though, don't imagine yourself with a flawless person because that will never happen. Be sure to include the objective flaws you believe you can live with long-term. If you want to try this but are having trouble starting you could take a look at the Meyer-Brigg personality types and see which one in their strengths and weaknesses most closely fits the type of person you would consider as a life partner. Some people are lucky and find the right person the first time, some people, like myself, don't realize how incompatible they were with their first boyfriend/girlfriend until after they have broken up.
In the end, though, I would say the best way to tell whether a person is right for you, is whether or not your happiness is a priority for them. Two people can be good people, even great people, but if they don't both give priority to the other person's happiness, then one of them will almost certainly be miserable.
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Round and round the not so marigoround
by Coded Logic ini find most theist arguments to be either confused or dishonest at best.
and most of them i regard with mild annoyance.
but there is one track of thinking that is so stupid it really gets under my skin: when, in order to try and prop up "faith", people try and tear down reason and critical thinking.
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Saethydd
I was raised to look down on philosophy, taught that it was pointless, told that it would screw with my head. I realize now why I was taught that. Because philosophy is at its root the trait of curiosity, which has turned out to be detrimental to my belief in all the things a JW is supposed to believe in. The worst part of it, though, is that I can't help anyone else to see the shortcomings of their faith because they have all been well-trained to ignore those questions as "human philosophy."