Have you considered the tactic of moving to a new congregation, going o the meetings until your publisher card arrives then just stop going?
Saethydd
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PIMO to POMO
by MaybeSo inok i'm ready for the transition.
i am not writing anything to anyone or writing some dumb letter.
the calls and visits trying to get me to come back will soon follow, the family guilt trips will intensify, loss of friends- really more like cult member associates, how the hell am i supposed to do this?
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Saethydd
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wt on education..
by zeb ini have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?
it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!
) followed an interest in history and left the truth.
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Saethydd
The higher ups in the Org are right to fear people going to college. The knowledge and critical thinking skills I gained in college are what helped me smell the bullshit and then make the plans to leave.
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2018 JWBroadcasting "Higher education is useless" video CLIP
by Not_Culty insept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.
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Saethydd
I don’t know about the GB but several years back the CO’s wife for my circuit needed an operation and they flew her to a South American country (Brazil I think) to have it performed cheaper than it could be in the states.
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2018 JWBroadcasting "Higher education is useless" video CLIP
by Not_Culty insept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.
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Saethydd
Yeah I know right, I go to college with all these people that want be useless shit like “doctors” and “engineers” who just want to “make the world a better place.” What a bunch of pathetic creations of Satan huh? Why didn’t they have the good sense to do something worthwhile with lives like join a crazy religious cult that would take an unhealthy level of control over their lives?
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do not keep account of the injury?
by Addison0998 ini have a long time “friend” around my age, she and her husband are big sheeple who have been raised to practically worship elders and view their as police angels.
anyways, they recently arranged to have a meeting with the elders to ask for their blessing pretty much to go to a wedding of a relative of hers who is not in the best standing, (she just recently got baptized and her husband was recently reinstated) anyways, the elders told them of course that it was their choice, but warned them that every time they ask for the elders advice on something, it is recorded whether they heeded the advice or not and looked at for things such as ske school, which is a goal they have to do together.
and of course they advised them not to go so they didn’t, especially since they want to go to the ske school, and i guess they only accept people who let people have full control of their lives.
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Saethydd
“Sheeple” definitely sounds like the right term to describe these people. Do they ask the elders for permission before they get up to use the restroom at an assembly too? “Well of course it’s your decision, but do you think Jehovah would want you to miss even a second of this wonderful spiritual feast that HE prepared for you?”
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What happened to jtrottigy?
by Freedom rocks injust curious if he's still lurking and making idle threats.
you can't find all of us who are on jwtalk!
hopefully what you've read on this site has made you start to think and see the truth about the organisation though that "it's not the truth!
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Saethydd
I got a random message a couple of weeks ago from some guy name Phil who’s supposedly a Witness that received a miraculous cure from his cigarette addiction after being out of the Org for 28 years. Also said that he doesn’t care about the “squabbling” (I assume by that he means the preponderance of against the morality or divine backing of the Watchtower) and that I should believe in them anyway because they are preaching the “good news.”
I sent him a return message pointing out his logical fallacies and ended by pointing out that by continuing the discussion with me he was either deliberately acting against God’s direction, or that the guys in New York aren’t actually directed by God at all. He hasn’t messaged me since then.
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Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise
by Listener ina qfr in the watchtower asks ".
n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?—2 cor.
they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.
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Saethydd
I’ll check those out Saethydd how about T.V series or movie?
Sadly not, I wish they would have made a TV series, it could have been amazing if done right
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The "abused" becomes the "abuser"
by stuckinarut2 ina thought occurred to me about the perpetuation of jw abusive culture.. (i do not mean sexual abuse - i am referring to emotional, or behavioural abuses).
most jws are raised in the oppressive and abusive culture of jw life.
they have been raised with low self esteem.
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Saethydd
Part of the reason I chose to leave outright without trying to reinstated first was that I wanted that cycle to end with me. I didn’t want my children to someday be influenced by family and pushed into that oppressive and abusive environment.
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Jehovah’s Witness dating rules
by Addison0998 ini’m sorry that i talk about dating a lot, i know it is probably very annoying, but you don’t have to read it.
but did anyone else have the most difficult time dating as a young jw?
me and my boyfriend have been dating for a year in half, we are in our early 20’s, and we are still not allowed to hold hands, cuddle or kiss.
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Saethydd
I’d get out of your parents house as soon as I could. Make friends and start asking around to see if anyone is looking for a roommate. That’s how I found my current best friend (who is also my girlfriend). Dating as a nonJW is SO much better. Far fewer restrictions on what you can do with whom, the ability to actually get to know a person, not to mention a larger pool of people which drastically increases your odds of finding someone compatible:
Also, in my opinion, trying to live a lie is just not going to be worth all the trouble and frustration that comes with it. Far better to be honest with yourself and others and just let things work out how they do, that’s how you’ll find your true friends anyway, I sadly went 21 years of my life without a single one.
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Who wrote the Bible?
by Ireneus inthe wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.
to mention a few:.
1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.
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Saethydd
If you’re interested in a plausible explanation that is based on some sort of actual evidence Wikipedia has an article on it that should at least give you some good books to check out on the subject.