as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
And now the appearance of 'Muslim extremists' is starting to gain on 'nazis' in arguments. but when in doubt used both, so we have a tie!
you didn't address the pedophile/protecting children issue, instead you complained about grammar....
you used protetection of youths (violence on campuses, really?) as an excuse for why college has been 'discouraged'. You very well know that THEY know education leads to thinking minds and that it is dangerous for keeping members.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
he p.m'd me and said it was that they have never acknowledged the worship of Jesus (basically, Trinity)...they speak of their 'purity from christendom' since 1919 when the temple was cleansed of christmas etc, but don't acknowledge that they worshipped Jesus into the 50's! So it's pretty severe obfuscation and hypocrisy. I don't know how he currently feels personally about worshipping Jesus, just that the watchtower hid this, struck him hard.
Thanks for the info, I had no idea about this, even tho this is primarily the reason i left the jws...that they downplay the role of Jesus was particularly disgusting to me. I had read and heard of everything else...miracle wheat, Beth sarim, but not this thing that is the main reason I left, so it's funny.
my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
My heart is breaking for you. I've been there. Without the man-duties. It's not an easy road. One step at a time.
I still want you to tell me about this Jesus worship! I don't know about it.
does anyone remember those 2 songs and that movie specifically being mentioned in the watchtower?
they were"bad" and should be avoided.
it had to be in the late 70's or early80's.
How about ac/dc ( rumored by witnesses to be short for antichrist devil child lol).
i know someone who walked out of the little mermaid because of Ursula (there's a witch in it!!!)
and someone else who turned off Sesame Street for her kids, because in the end Elmo sings the Elmo's world song...which is to the TUNE of jingle bells! And sure jingle bells isn't specifically about Christmas but it's ASSOCIATED with christmas!!
it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
i have always thought that the members of the governing body are just a decorative elements in the visible cusp of the organization.
i have read conspiratorial topics about who really rule, but they are not visible.
the shareholders of the corporation?
"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.
but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.
--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.
I hope I'm not ignorant about things here, but it seems to me that almost all homosexual men are born gay. Most lesbian women seem also born gay, however it seems in addition to that, other women make this choice themselves as they get older, to be with another woman as opposed to a man, usually due to bad experience with men and wanting to be with someone more similar to themselves. This sort of woman will sometimes go back to seeking males. I haven't seen the same thing happen much with men, although bisexual men usually choose one way or the other in midlife and tend to stick to it.
is there any evidence that men EVER 'become' homosexual due to 'nurturing'? I haven't seen this. let me know if you know otherwise.
That people are born gay has always been obvious to me. That they can never have a companion has always been a cruel idea to me. Born to be lonely forever! that is what is unnatural!
"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.
but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.
--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.
I didn't leave because of this issue, no. But I have to say that this issue is what caused my daughters to realize the society Is bigoted and that they never want to go back. They both have boyfriends, but my daughter was president of the gay awareness club in high school. My second daughter, who was mentally loyal to the org, said 'well they're stupid then' when I told her witnesses disfellowship gay people and that issue alone made her finally decide to move on.
hatred of homosexuality is the new racism. Witnesses better chage their doctrine before they are looked upon like the KKK by the general populace.
what would be your answer?
are you are a righteous person?
on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.
Never a JW, I wish that were true. I said 5 1/2 because i really do feel more imperfect than most and was being honest. Many people in my life call me an 'angel' and I can't deal with that because it's so inaccurate...they just don't know the other side.
i recently read a quote of lemony snicket: (paraphrased) .....people are like Cobb salads. A chopped up mix of good and bad stuff just trying to sort through their own mess and confusion.
