They only mean that they themselves, the leadership, have a right to change their minds. Their followers should just follow whatever they say, or be rebellious apostates. I agree that they are covering their asses, possibly going to come out with a big change soon, maybe 1914, that the faithful will deny is of any real significance.
FayeDunaway
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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.
it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.
jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.
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Another family needlessly torn apart
by Visitor1984 ini'm feeling very angry tonight as i watched my mother in law end her relationship with my husband, her son, tonight.
we were happily inactive, enjoying a distant but decent relationship with my in laws until they saw some christmas decorations and everything changed.
i spent two hours getting drilled on whether my husband and i celebrate holidays, to be told that my laws won't socialize with us anymore.
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FayeDunaway
I agree with Steve. You will look back on this and feel that the day she told you she was cutting you off was the first day of true freedom for you. You don't have to worry what others will think anymore. You're done with that, you've done it long enough.
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What are some things JWs re-name to make themselves different than Christians?
by NikL injws re-name things so they seem like they are different than other religions.
(of course we know they are different but that's another story).
i was just thinking about those things where they are like most everyone else in christendom but the re-name it to seem different.. for example god forbid they have a church, it's a "kingdom hall".. they don't have pastors and deacons they have "elders" and "ministerial servants".. they don't have tithing but they will have family heads fill out a paper saying how much they can contribute on a monthly basis (not sure if there is a name for that...unless it's tithing.
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FayeDunaway
They say "the Truth" while meaning "the Cult."
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What not to say...
by joey jojo inhey guys.
i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.
i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.
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FayeDunaway
LHG I always call it "the religion" too.
I think the current acceptable term among themselves is "the organization." Which actually sounds freakier.
what the heck is wrong with "the society"? Is it just outdated, like "new order"?
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Wife is Awake
by freemindfade infollowing the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
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FayeDunaway
Soooo happy for you, fmf!!!! Patience paid off. Have a happy first Valentine's Day together :).
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What Was Your Favorite Kingdom Song?
by minimus infunny but for whatever reason, i can't stop singing walking in integrity from the old songbook!
it's in my head and in my opinion it was one of the few songs i really liked..
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FayeDunaway
Loyal love was my favorite when I was little. Then later it was Jehovah is our Refuge.
Muddy, I particularly enjoyed your post.
Now that I'm in a regular church, I love Great is thy Faithfullness and How Great Thou Art. O holy Night is my favorite at Christmas. I used to sing Silent Night too, secretly, once a year. My own private Christmas celebration lol.
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Why Jehovah's Witnesses are WRONG about Christmas
by David_Jay inas you know (and are probably tired of hearing me repeat), i’m jewish.
yes, i was a jehovah’s witness when i was a teenager and into my 20s, but returned to my roots and now celebrate chanukah when the holiday season comes around each year.. so why am i writing about christmas?
well, that’s because i thought i would share something about how jehovah’s witnesses teach against christmas.
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FayeDunaway
Nice OP, David, and Carol, I agree. The pagans knew what they were doing, having a celebration of lights during the darkest days of the year. And that Christianity has incorporated these things, the evergreens and holly, I actually mark that as one of the better times in Christianity. It was good of the church of that time to be inclusive, and it's interesting to me how well the themes of life and light and rebirth tie in so well with Christmas and Easter. Brilliant, really, and beautiful.
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Did anyone vote yet?
by NewYork44M ini voted today in nyc.
a well organized process.
very busy and most of the people voting were african american.
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FayeDunaway
Wasanelderonce, "witnoid", I love that!!
i was a strong Bernie supporter. Started liking Hillary more at the convention. She's not perfect, but pretty good, and very qualified. I already voted, and I was very proud to vote for the first viable female candidate. If she wins, it will be a big moment for me and all American women.
American politics though has made an exceptionally ugly turn of late. The country is divided 50/50.
I just can't believe half of them would vote for a fascist, but some don't learn from history. Short memories. Not only a fascist but a Russian stooge of a fascist. A Russian stooge sexist racist bigoted narcissist white supremacist-backed greedy monster fascist. Not to mention his other character traits. But, whatever. Maybe witnesses are right and it IS the end of the world.
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Were Conventions, Asemblies and the Memorials boring to you?
by HereIgo inconventions always just seemed like more of a vacation to me than anything else, especially if you had to travel out of town for it, but definitely were exhausting especially toward the end of each day.
for some reason i didn't mind the special and circuit assemblies too much, probably because they seemed like more of a social event than anything else and only 1-2 days.
the memorial always was kind of boring to me.
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FayeDunaway
An event that was our only Christmas, where the most exciting part was seeing what disfellowshipped people with maybe even a beard showed up, and YAY we got to pass a glass of wine and plate of crackers down a row. Memorials were dreadful.
Conventions, where you got new clothes, were fun, only for the socializing and making and serving lunch, until they took that away too..but when we had kids, and tried to contain them in the same hard seat for all freaking day while a voice droned on...and on....and on.....pure hell.
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Feeling very lonely
by BlackWolf inthe past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.
the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.
every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.
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FayeDunaway
Hoping that you can be patient with this lonely time in your life, BW. It's so difficult. Please don't let it spoil your schooling...that is so important for you so that you can escape this stuff. You sound really depressed. So sorry you are going through an especially rough patch.