Wid, you haven't read ray's book. Read it and see what he was like and why he left. you have heard rumors that are false. Use your 'freedom' and see.
FayeDunaway
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
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i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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FayeDunaway
Wid, my 'valid reason for hate' is that I read the book of john, and saw witnesses have a messed up interpretation of God and salvation. For this, I have lost my family, because I had to leave their religion, and their religion doesn't allow me to change my religion and still associate with them. But I guess I'm just 'pretending' to have a valid reason.
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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FayeDunaway
Speaking of Catholicism, I'm loving this new pope. If I had just been deciding what direction to go, I would have given Catholicism more thought if he was already at the helm. I would still have trouble with Mary worship and saints, but as a whole I think Catholicism is pretty attractive these days. -
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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FayeDunaway
And now the appearance of 'Muslim extremists' is starting to gain on 'nazis' in arguments. but when in doubt used both, so we have a tie!
you didn't address the pedophile/protecting children issue, instead you complained about grammar....
you used protetection of youths (violence on campuses, really?) as an excuse for why college has been 'discouraged'. You very well know that THEY know education leads to thinking minds and that it is dangerous for keeping members.
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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FayeDunaway
Witnesses have such freedom of speech! Why don't you go to your elders and tell them how you exercised your freedom of speech on this site and hear what they have to say. -
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Help! I'm drowning!
by vinman inmy wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
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FayeDunaway
he p.m'd me and said it was that they have never acknowledged the worship of Jesus (basically, Trinity)...they speak of their 'purity from christendom' since 1919 when the temple was cleansed of christmas etc, but don't acknowledge that they worshipped Jesus into the 50's! So it's pretty severe obfuscation and hypocrisy. I don't know how he currently feels personally about worshipping Jesus, just that the watchtower hid this, struck him hard.
Thanks for the info, I had no idea about this, even tho this is primarily the reason i left the jws...that they downplay the role of Jesus was particularly disgusting to me. I had read and heard of everything else...miracle wheat, Beth sarim, but not this thing that is the main reason I left, so it's funny.
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Help! I'm drowning!
by vinman inmy wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
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FayeDunaway
My heart is breaking for you. I've been there. Without the man-duties. It's not an easy road. One step at a time.
I still want you to tell me about this Jesus worship! I don't know about it.
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Hotel Caifornia, Stairway to Heaven, Saturday Night Fever
by Butyoucanneverleave indoes anyone remember those 2 songs and that movie specifically being mentioned in the watchtower?
they were"bad" and should be avoided.
it had to be in the late 70's or early80's.
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FayeDunaway
How about ac/dc ( rumored by witnesses to be short for antichrist devil child lol).
i know someone who walked out of the little mermaid because of Ursula (there's a witch in it!!!)
and someone else who turned off Sesame Street for her kids, because in the end Elmo sings the Elmo's world song...which is to the TUNE of jingle bells! And sure jingle bells isn't specifically about Christmas but it's ASSOCIATED with christmas!!
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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Yeah, if they're always going to shun anyone it's going to be apostates. They are way too insecure an organization to ever not shun apostates. -
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Who's behind the WT / JW.org?
by elkatire1980 ini have always thought that the members of the governing body are just a decorative elements in the visible cusp of the organization.
i have read conspiratorial topics about who really rule, but they are not visible.
the shareholders of the corporation?
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FayeDunaway
Yeah just read crisis of conscience to see it really is just the governing body. But now like cofty said, lawyers and business consultants and accountants are giving recommendations for how to stay financially afloat and work on their public image.