FayeDunaway

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  All the changes

  by vinman in

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  are their any newer people here, who recently found out ttatt, who has been disturbed by all the new changes in the organization?

  it is turning into something that feels impersonal.

  i know change is good.

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  FayeDunaway

  Newer to the ttatt, I think he means.

  most of the changes happened after we left...I really really am curious what my parents are thinking about all of it, but since we don't talk, I don't know.
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  The Secret is out....but nobody cares

  by MrTheocratic in

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  i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

  i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

  i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

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  FayeDunaway

  yay to your mom!! I bet she comes back and reads some more to see more true things that witnesses aren't saying :).

  and welcome!! I never formally introduced myself but I appreciate those who do.

  I bet this is a regional thing. In places with nice climates and good schools the witnesses aren't believing so strongly anymore. In places with real struggles the paradise hope still has its luster. (Thoughts on that?)
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

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  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  When in doubt, I don't believe you have read crisis of conscience, or you wouldn't have said what you did about Ray franz. You are not knowledgable about him. Get it off your bookshelf and read it.

  you do disagree then with the society about reading apostate literature, reading 'all sides of an issue' as you say. Is that your only disagreement?
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

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  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  I DO support the cross. I said I have difficulty with Mary worship and prayer to saints, oh, also statues in church. I think Francis is a great Christian leader and role model. I however am a happy Protestant.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  Wid, you haven't read ray's book. Read it and see what he was like and why he left. you have heard rumors that are false. Use your 'freedom' and see.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  Wid, my 'valid reason for hate' is that I read the book of john, and saw witnesses have a messed up interpretation of God and salvation. For this, I have lost my family, because I had to leave their religion, and their religion doesn't allow me to change my religion and still associate with them. But I guess I'm just 'pretending' to have a valid reason.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  Speaking of Catholicism, I'm loving this new pope. If I had just been deciding what direction to go, I would have given Catholicism more thought if he was already at the helm. I would still have trouble with Mary worship and saints, but as a whole I think Catholicism is pretty attractive these days.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  And now the appearance of 'Muslim extremists' is starting to gain on 'nazis' in arguments. but when in doubt used both, so we have a tie!

  you didn't address the pedophile/protecting children issue, instead you complained about grammar....

  you used protetection of youths (violence on campuses, really?) as an excuse for why college has been 'discouraged'. You very well know that THEY know education leads to thinking minds and that it is dangerous for keeping members.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  FayeDunaway

  Witnesses have such freedom of speech! Why don't you go to your elders and tell them how you exercised your freedom of speech on this site and hear what they have to say.
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  Help! I'm drowning!

  by vinman in

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  my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.

  i've been faking family worship.

  i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.

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  FayeDunaway

  he p.m'd me and said it was that they have never acknowledged the worship of Jesus (basically, Trinity)...they speak of their 'purity from christendom' since 1919 when the temple was cleansed of christmas etc, but don't acknowledge that they worshipped Jesus into the 50's! So it's pretty severe obfuscation and hypocrisy. I don't know how he currently feels personally about worshipping Jesus, just that the watchtower hid this, struck him hard.

  Thanks for the info, I had no idea about this, even tho this is primarily the reason i left the jws...that they downplay the role of Jesus was particularly disgusting to me. I had read and heard of everything else...miracle wheat, Beth sarim, but not this thing that is the main reason I left, so it's funny.