*im sorry, it's just so ironic that a witness would say 'get a life', it makes me grin.
No, I agree you shouldn't be kicked off, not yet. And hopefully we can all be civil, including you. And not call people idiots.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
*im sorry, it's just so ironic that a witness would say 'get a life', it makes me grin.
No, I agree you shouldn't be kicked off, not yet. And hopefully we can all be civil, including you. And not call people idiots.
are their any newer people here, who recently found out ttatt, who has been disturbed by all the new changes in the organization?
it is turning into something that feels impersonal.
i know change is good.
Newer to the ttatt, I think he means.
most of the changes happened after we left...I really really am curious what my parents are thinking about all of it, but since we don't talk, I don't know.
i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
yay to your mom!! I bet she comes back and reads some more to see more true things that witnesses aren't saying :).
and welcome!! I never formally introduced myself but I appreciate those who do.
I bet this is a regional thing. In places with nice climates and good schools the witnesses aren't believing so strongly anymore. In places with real struggles the paradise hope still has its luster. (Thoughts on that?)
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
When in doubt, I don't believe you have read crisis of conscience, or you wouldn't have said what you did about Ray franz. You are not knowledgable about him. Get it off your bookshelf and read it.
you do disagree then with the society about reading apostate literature, reading 'all sides of an issue' as you say. Is that your only disagreement?
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
Wid, you haven't read ray's book. Read it and see what he was like and why he left. you have heard rumors that are false. Use your 'freedom' and see.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
Wid, my 'valid reason for hate' is that I read the book of john, and saw witnesses have a messed up interpretation of God and salvation. For this, I have lost my family, because I had to leave their religion, and their religion doesn't allow me to change my religion and still associate with them. But I guess I'm just 'pretending' to have a valid reason.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
And now the appearance of 'Muslim extremists' is starting to gain on 'nazis' in arguments. but when in doubt used both, so we have a tie!
you didn't address the pedophile/protecting children issue, instead you complained about grammar....
you used protetection of youths (violence on campuses, really?) as an excuse for why college has been 'discouraged'. You very well know that THEY know education leads to thinking minds and that it is dangerous for keeping members.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.