The memorial as laid out in scriptures is nothing like the witness memorial. They actively REJECT the salvation of Christ by passing the plate and not partaking. I disagree with finkelstein on this one and believe that the witness memorial is NOT biblically sound. The whole 'other sheep' thing is insane. The little flock Jesus was speaking of is the Jews, the other sheep, and great crowd, are Gentiles. But everyone who believes in the salvation of Jesus partakes!!
FayeDunaway
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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For me this issue is so simple. Blood is sacred because it represents life. Life is so sacred we should do anything to save it. Including using blood to save life. This is actually the most respectful way we could treat blood, to use it to save life. it's what blood is for, to preserve life.
If you take a life, you are blood guilty. If you let someone die because they need blood, you are blood guilty.
The biblical 'pouring out blood' was about killing animals and eating them. It was disrespectful to eat the blood, it was not considering the life that you had taken to eat that animal. It has nothing to do with how blood is used today to save lives. It is disrespectful to let someone die and not use the lifesaving gift of blood.
it is the simple-mindedness of JW doctrine to take these scriptures and not only over-apply them but not understand the principle behind them.
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In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?
by stuckinarut2 inwhat is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
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FayeDunaway
I don't really agree with infant baptism, it's more for the parents, and old superstitions that if the baby dies young he would die a Christian. It's stupid, but at least it's not something the person will suffer for later...they are not going to lose their family (by mandate) by joining another religion, or sin and get disfellowshipped because they were already baptized. child witness baptism is actually much worse than infant baptism. -
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In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?
by stuckinarut2 inwhat is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
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It's funny that 1914 happened to bring WW I, so that is the one date they stuck with. It's so ridiculous thinking about it now. A doomsday cult saying 'the end is coming in THIS year!' And then them saying...oh it happened, it was just invisible.
and yes, even after the prophesy said every eye would SEE it.
I feel stupid. no I never fully believed, but I mostly believed. And why the heck didn't I speak up more.
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In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?
by stuckinarut2 inwhat is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
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FayeDunaway
Village... Sweaters on heads, that's wacky alright!
How about...change your church....lose your family!!
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Abortion?
by Protarded inscenerio.
your daughter gets pregnant.
your little girl whom you've invested your life and love.
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Against. She can go to the alternative school while pregnant, and I would help raise the baby while she finished school. That's my grandchild in there. Time to pool our resources. And oh, def get her on the pill!! -
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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.
by James Jack ini was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.
of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.
i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.
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FayeDunaway
Shoot, nope never Vancouver. Been there twice but never stayed long.
Speaking of all these torn families, Has anyone noticed what the special talk after the memorial is entitled? Quite ironic.
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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.
by James Jack ini was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.
of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.
i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.
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FayeDunaway
Finkelstein, I also know a couple who were publicly reproved because of going to their df'd daughters wedding! (Do I know you? Or maybe this just happens often. Shoot im dying to meet some old friends on here, stupidly always looking for signs that I know some of you!! I guess I just really want some of my old friends again.)
Anyway! I also know an elder who was removed from his position because he conducted the wedding of his 'inactive' daughter and worldly son in law.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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FayeDunaway
Marvin I meant to click 'like' and accidentally clicked unlike but apparently it's stuck that way.
Anyway, excellent post cofty and indeed you are NOT a one trick pony!
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How do you feel about religion as a whole?
by FatherFirst init just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.
just curious, a personal poll if you will.
what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?
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FayeDunaway
Thank you cappy! Yes I'm female.
And shoot William, I am not one of the people who say you can't have morals without religion. I disagree very strongly with that.