Posts by FayeDunaway

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So I clicked on the Mormon come-on advertisement to "Come chat about Jesus Christ"

by oppostate in

so i clicked on the mormon come-on advertisement on the top, the right side and the bottom of the jwd page that invited me to "come chat about jesus christ".. i started a chat with brook and taiza and asked them why the subtitle of the book of mormon changed from "another gospel of jesus christ" to "another testament of jesus christ".. brooke told me it hadn't so i googled it and told them there's plenty of websites that refer to it that way and i had a very old copy with that subtitle on it.. so taiza says it's probably a copy by some break off group and not from them.. i told her the inside said from the "lds".

so they left the chat.. so i figured maybe there's a technical glitch and i shouldn't assume they just dropped me.. so i log on again and give my last name instead of my first name this time.. and hellen and catherine log into the channel.. i ask them again about the title change and they drop off the chat.. so i figured twice is very unlikely that they had a glitch, and i'm pretty sure they dropped me because they didn't like my question.. one more time, i'll give them one more try.. so i log on again, with my middle name this time.. brooke and jayne log on.. i type that i'd been chatting previously with brooke.. she types back that she's a different brooke.. so jayne starts asking if i read the book of mormon.. i say yes and i have a question about it.. so i ask my question about the "another gospel" to 'another testament" change.. she says that she does not recall ever hearing about that and what do i like about the book of mormon.. i then ask her about the "gospel" paul wrote about in corinthians.. she says it's the same as in the book of mormon.. i ask back that if the gospel is the "same" why call it another???

and i quote her galatians 1:8.. she says that it does not apply to the book of mormon since it is not different from the bible so therefore, it is not another good news.. but that is the subtitle of the book isn't it.. so she sends me a link to a two minute video by the lds telling of the finding of the tablets and the transcription from reformed egyptian to english by joseph smith.. i started questioning whether reformed egyptian was a real language.

FayeDunaway

Millie we are often so alike! I am the same exact way.

Mormons like to ask that 'what do you like about us?' question. Some came to my door when I was still a witness. (Disclosure: talking to Mormons isn't easy for me. if I have been prejudiced against anyone, it is Mormons. I think this is based partially on subconscious dislike of my own past religion and sort of wanting to deflect my frustration at something.)

They asked what I like about them and I managed to say I appreciated that they are very family centered. They asked if I had read the Book of Mormon, and I had read some of it. They were all gushing and said 'what did you think???' I said I didn't want to discuss it. I wanted to keep their visit brief and didn't want to get negative on them. I guess as much as I disliked Mormons, I knew what knocking on doors was like so felt sympathetic.

A witness chat line would be funny. I'm pretty sure they would hang up the second someone said something negative.

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

FayeDunaway

Taking the step to post on an apostate site....that is just a huge, huge step! We are so conditioned to think we will be an evil person in God's eyes. Bad, bad, us. Remember: the only ones saying they speak for God are themselves. And this is blasphemy. They are a false prophet. They have no authority and no say whether or not we are 'bad!' They just think they do. Actually you are brave and amazing to think independently and say 'you know what, I think you're wrong.'

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

FayeDunaway

Omg, such good news that your husband is already awake!! I'm so excited for you. And your kids are going to grow up normally, only 1 and 3!!!

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

If they already are calling her for a judicial committee it may be too late. I'm thinking in her situation, just let herself be free of it all. Quickly she will see how they have no real power over her, and she will be completely free to live her own life. She could talk to people she cares about and tell them what is happening to her, so they know it was simple questions they are disfellowshipping her for. This way she would not really be defamed, but they would know she wasn't treated right.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

Thanks for explaining that, opus. It would be interesting seeing what happens with those 3 kids in her class. The parents would probably request a different teacher. I don't think they would try to get her removed. But you never know! Good she has the support of the principal.

What have the elders got on her? How do they know she's 'apostate'?

And how wonderful your whole family is out!! Not many of us can say that.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

Opus, what will your sister lose if she is df'd?

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

FayeDunaway

After the first wake up, all their other bizarre teachings started falling like dominos. It was like the theme song to 'Community.'

i can't count the reasons I should stay

one by one they all just fade away

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

FayeDunaway

Even if you're born in, there's that lingering feeling that something is just not right. What I don't understand is the people who never have had that feeling! It takes a special kind of blindness, maybe.

Looking forward to your story, and congrats on your courage to come and write. When I was still in I never posted.

Im hoping your family stays intact through all of this. Something is going to change, because people can't keep pretending forever. It's a scary time but I think we all would say it was worth it. I definitely say it is.

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

FayeDunaway

Deciding that all who benefit from Jesus' sacrifice can partake. Swore to myself I could never go to another memorial and pass, reject, his sacrifice again. And I havent! But partake monthly at my new church, and I never take it for granted.

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Why is shunning unloveing

by poopie in

jw
friends

please give reasons for all the lurkers.

and why does shunning show the same attitude as the pharisees?

FayeDunaway

I'll make this simple: Get baptized to make your family and community happy. Later change your mind about the religion, lose your family and anyone you've ever been allowed to be close to.

Loving? No.

Controlling. Vengeful. Hateful.