Divergent and Pete GROSS!!! It's enough to turn ones stomach!!!
Divergent, congrats on the name change :)
FayeDunaway
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"The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed"
by nicolaou inpresidential hopeful ben carson of course.
this isn't another gun control debate, i just thought it might be fun to have a topic where we can dump all the hysterical quotes from the candidates.. it's a deep and plentiful mine folks!
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Presidential elections are super fun, and I do mean that sincerely. I only wish all that campaign money could go to a real cause. -
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"The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed"
by nicolaou inpresidential hopeful ben carson of course.
this isn't another gun control debate, i just thought it might be fun to have a topic where we can dump all the hysterical quotes from the candidates.. it's a deep and plentiful mine folks!
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Sorry, prologos, I did know hitler won by not many votes (and there were several parties), but didn't realize there were so few witnesses in Germany. -
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"The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed"
by nicolaou inpresidential hopeful ben carson of course.
this isn't another gun control debate, i just thought it might be fun to have a topic where we can dump all the hysterical quotes from the candidates.. it's a deep and plentiful mine folks!
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If every witness in Germany had voted against the Nazi party, it's very unlikely Hitler would have ever been able to accomplish what he did. -
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A new member
by Kurteousmaximus inhi... i am new and after nearly 20 years after being disassociated at 15 i would like to make contact with others who have similar difficulties.
my mother was disfellowshipped shortly after my rebellion and had all ties with both her mother and brother cut and that remains the case.. just really hacked off with not being able to put things in the proper place in my life after all these years.
for the record i don't know if i believe in god but am searching for some peace as i seem to self destruct on a regular basis.. any ideas anyone?.
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FayeDunaway
Hi Kurt, welcome! I hope you tell more of your story here. What led you to disassociation at 15? What in your life causes you to become derailed every so often? I sincerely hope you have not felt bad about yourself all these years, that you may be 'bad' by nature. Growing up witness is not a healthy way to grow up. Feeling that you have to stick so closely to these very narrow parameters that define what it is to be a 'good' person. To me you sound like a very good person. I think you are ready to open your heart now and move on. -
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WT opinion about anointed Christians
by Gorbatchov injesus said "look to the fruits" of real christians.. it is unbelievable that the wt says that new anointed christians are merely false.
how can humans decide who is anointed and who's not?.
how can the watchtower society say these unchristian statements?
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It just goes along with the general low esteem they have for their own followers. They are only valuable to them as long as they can be used by them. When they make a claim about themselves, they are 'mistaken' or have mental or emotional problems, meanwhile the GB makes outrageous claims about itself all the time. Is it mental/emotional problems, or are they just 'mistaken'?
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Hello to everybody!
by John Free ini wanted to introduce myself.
like many of you i was born-in, am married with one child.
after 36 years of this cycle: doubts-thought stopping- suppression- indoctrination-cult mode i realised enough was enough.
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FayeDunaway
Yay John!!!
LIVE FREE OR DIE.
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What’s the deal with all the Smart-Educated JWs?
by John Aquila inwe talk a lot about most jws being uneducated, uninformed, and that they lack critical thinking skills, but in my area there is a lot of jws that went to the university, medical school, law school, and came back to the organization.
in my circuit, that i know of, we had two electrical engineers, one computer engineer with a ph.d. eight teachers with a bachelors degree and three of those with a masters in education.
we had two medical doctors, one was a pediatrician who closed his business about 3 years ago and went to bethel.
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FayeDunaway
Not just education levels, but personalities matter too. If you are the type of person that likes to believe you are better than others in 'the world', because you are more righteous, and you like to look down on others, you are likely to stay a witness no matter your education level. You are probably not likely to be attracted to the humanities classes either, which might change your worldview.
As regards attracting new converts to the JW's who are well educated: the more they dumb down their literature, the less likely it is to happen.
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Introducing...ME
by Heartsafire inlong time lurker here.
i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.
to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.
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FayeDunaway
Heartsafire, the first half of your posts sounds so much like me!! I doubted but went along for a long time until there was a particular issue I was going through, which led me to start reading the bible, just reading, especially the New Testament and the book of John with a completely blank slate. I said to myself 'without any former indoctrination, what would I believe after simply reading this?' Well it was obvious that everyone who believed in Jesus was supposed to partake of the bread and wine. Duh!!! Actually so many events converged in my life that told me I had to get out SOON. My oldest was reaching 'unbaptized publisher' age. I stayed for one more memorial after waking up about partaking, and felt like crap for passing the emblems, promised myself I never would pass them again. And I didnt! We faded and I joined a liberal Protestant church (after researching every doctrine and different churches!) Also, you don't need to agree on everything, people are free to their own interpretations, it's only the big stuff that matters (Christ died for us). Anyway, I woke up my husband enough to the point he was happy not being active and going to meetings any more. I just stayed in scripture and showed him things I was learning. Now he comes with me to church sometimes but it's really not his thing, which is ok. He's actually a lot happier not being a witness. He loves the free time! I wish you a smooth transition, and even if you aren't successful getting your husband to have an open mind, make sure you assure him you're not going anywhere. Many husbands think their wife is going to leave them or go wild or something and it makes them feel very insecure and that is a source of a lot of their anger when they see you having conflicts with the religion. -
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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FayeDunaway
Godspeed, Richard. I wish you only the best things in life...including freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But especially, freedom.