Posts by FayeDunaway

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

Wonderment, I appreciated your honest post as well. Even tho you and I read some scriptures differently, I think we have the same overall outlook--or at least very similar! Joining this forum it was never my purpose to argue the Trinity...I myself don't strictly adhere to it in my beliefs, as explained in a post above. I think the Trinity is an explanation of how Jesus can be referred to in the Bible several times as God, and reconciling this with there is only ONE God. To me it makes sense that since Jesus is the only begotten son of God, and man begets man, God begets God...Jesus is God and The Father is God. But as I said before, the Father is given fatherly respect. The Holy Sprit--while I do believe he is a person, and often in scripture the three are linked together, I don't believe he is also God. I think we don't really know. But mystery doesnt bother me. As your username suggests, I also like to 'wonder.'

Connie please don't be discouraged. I find also that this forum gets me down sometimes. So, I have tried to focus on helping other people who are struggling or feeling lonely...helping them feel supported. I avoid the theist/atheist arguments that go nowhere. And there so many sad stories, often without answers. But at least these people have somewhere to tell their stories, to people who understand! But really, taking breaks from the forum is healthy and go ahead and take those breaks if you need to. If you are starting to feel discouraged that is a good sign that it's time for a break.

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Did you know anyone who commited suicide in the org?

by JH in

jw
friends

back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.

his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.

he was always controlled by his father.

FayeDunaway

I've known many. Either teens who didn't really want to be witnesses but had too much family pressure, or people whose lives weren't perfect when they were expected to be perfect, or mental issues that weren't addressed correctly.

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

Reading the context...just two or three scriptures...around John14:28 is all that is needed.

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

Connie my method of study was very similar to yours and answers also came to me in that way after praying for direction.

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A question about fading....

by Tornintwo in

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friends

i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

FayeDunaway

Yes, family is the primary reason. Also it prevents a disfellowshipping for apostasy...if you go slow, they are less likely to suspect something.

So it all depends on you and your circumstances, torn in two. I remember you were a convert and wanted to take it slow for your daughter's sake. She seems to have mostly come out of it, and your husband has eased up, tho he is still a believer. So the only thing you have now may be some witness friends you occasionally see.

What is the worst that can happen, if they do Df or DA you? If you are tired of fading and ready to face the possible consequences, just stop. If the elders in your area don't give a lot of attention to people like you, you may be safe anyway.

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Editorial in newspaper on disfellowshipping

by InquiryMan in

a norwegian regional newspaper published an article on a circuit assembly day of jws (including a photo) some weeks ago.

following that, a df woman was interviewed in another article.. following up on that, this editorial was written and published .. http://saltenposten.no/index.php?page=vis_nyhet&nyhetid=8368.

jehovah's witnesses are one of them.

FayeDunaway

I could only read the left side as well, but it seems like a great editorial!!

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3 local needs parts on service meeting.

by hoser in

it is scheduled on our service meeting next week to have 3 local needs parts.

local needs 1 , local needs 2 and local needs 3.

FayeDunaway

I thought local needs was scheduled, once a month, among the other talks. Were the other talks cancelled? Or are they doing it differently now. Wouldn't someone have been reproved at a previous meeting, and then local needs in the following weeks?

Be sure to come back next week and tell us hoser!

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

I don't believe 1 cor 15:27 does exclude Christ from being equal to God. It says that God was not placed under christs feet. This is because they sit side by side.

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

Tenacious this sounds like a book! I'll buy one :).

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Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

by dontfitin in

hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

FayeDunaway

I'm kind of failing to see how adding 'else' is trinitarian.

He is before all things.

He is before all else.

If anything, it seems to me that the alternate 'else' is anti-trinitarian, similar to adding 'other' to vs. 16. You say that the idea was to exempt Christ from creation. Leaving the text as 'he is before all things' seems to do a better job of showing him exempt from creation than saying 'all else.'

In this case it seems to be less of an agenda to prove something, and more an alternate wording, not added wording, and the alternate wording does nothing to prove anything trinitarian imo. It's interesting you read it that way. It seems like you could be saying the opposite of what you are intending to say, which would be: 'Why don't you people criticize these other translations for saying 'else' in the following verse, because it sounds less trinitarian?' Maybe if their agenda was proving something unusual and saying they are the only mouthpiece of God, and everyone better listen to their unique 'truth' or be destroyed, it would be different.

I do agree with you in your last paragraph above when you say there is no way a translator can be 100% accurate in their attempts to translate.