Posts by FayeDunaway

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"Fa La La"

by OnTheWayOut in

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out at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.

she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".

i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.

FayeDunaway

Your wife seems to live in her own universe. Even for a Jehovah's witness. You are a good man, otwo.

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Reasons for NOT Returning

by Saved_JW in

i left the watchtower in the winter of 2008. my first year out was by far the most difficult.

i had every intention of returning to the watchtower for the very purpose of being able to speak with my friends and family.

i had already concluded that the teachings were not the "truth" [after reading crisis of conscience] so coming back was more emotional then anything.

Saved, your post reminds me of something I observed right away when I left the jw's and joined a new church. In the first sermon I heard, the pastor spoke of his own human weaknesses, how he felt when his daughter was born and he learned she had severe physical abnormalities. It was almost shocking to me. Not once in any talk did I ever hear a witness brother say anything of their own personal weaknesses or struggles or lapses in faith. Not once! Everyone has to pretend they are perfect all the time. It's difficult to find any genuine witnesses who aren't 'pretending.' Even among friends, you don't talk about these very real things. It's not part of their culture, which is built around 'appearances.'

It's still hard for me to admit my own failures to other people, but I'm learning, and its a much healthier practice than pretending I'm perfect.

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Lurkers: A truth is either true, or it isn't. There is no in between.

by cappytan in

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friends

truth is absolute.

there is no such thing as 2=1 or 1=2.. if one starts out with the equation 2=1, one has already failed.. truth = truth.

you cannot change whether something is truth or not.. when the organization teaches one thing as a truth (ex.

FayeDunaway

I told a weak witness recently to examine his religion. I said to him that the truth can stand up to research.

Crossing my fingers that he listened to me. If he drops the cult, he will have huge relief from his guilt issues and never, ever being good enough despite decades of trying.

The truth CAN stand up to research, if it's true. And if it doesn't, it's false, and doesnt deserve to be called truth anymore. Name me any type of ANYTHING that it wasn't beneficial to research outside material about before signing up for. What company you might want to work for, what insurance company you might want to get, what stock funds you might want to buy, what school you might want to send your kids to, how to build a house most efficiently, what car to buy, what shoes to buy...suddenly when you are choosing a religion, witnesses expect you to do NO outside research. This thing that controls your life and affects you in every way, you aren't supposed to research outside info on. This thing that is going to consume almost all of your free time....you aren't supposed to do outside research on before signing up. This thing that controls your WHOLE. LIFE.

TRUTH CAN STAND UP TO RESEARCH. Isn't it eye opening they feel so threatened by research? Doesn't that tell you something?

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Ex JW's - Which Christian denomination are you with now and why?

by Truthexplorer in

this is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.

the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.

i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.

FayeDunaway

A mainline liberal protestant church, I'll PM you which one. Dubstepped I'll miss you if you go.

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Time to Spill my Guts

by Hadriel in

been lurking around here for several weeks.

posted once or twice but not too much.

i'm a covert fade at the moment.

FayeDunaway

Hadriel I just want to say I find you really likable and intelligent and I love that you want to help others and even have the resources to do that.

People like you are very good news for people stuck in the org.

I would just say, for your kids, be sure to encourage them to join clubs or sports that will help them make new friends. Once they have new friends they will be able to move on. All that advice about avoiding extracurricular activities was really great for preventing witness kids from making friends, and they know it.

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The Donald knows the JW's are the truth

by life is to short in

i swear you just cannot make this stuff up.

i just heard from an older sister in the hall that donald's trump son-in-law bought part of the brooklyn heights compound, i think she said the 25 building but what ever.

she than went on to say and to quote her "the donald knows it's the truth.

FayeDunaway

Flipper I think the majority of Americans are pretty moderate and without a major terrorist attack, able to see that trump would be a terrible mistake for our country.

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Merry Christmas! Or merry Christmas on the sly! Ho! Ho! Ho!

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

just to say merry christmas and a happy new year!

i hope wherever you are that you have a lovely holiday, even if like me your celebrating on the sly hehe in which case happy christmas on the sly.

xxxxxxxxxx.

FayeDunaway

Merry Christmas!!! On the sly or in the open, merry Christmas!!!!

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Disassociation letter

by BeautifulMind in

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friends

good evening.

i have a question about where to send my disassociation letter.

do i give a copy to the overseer of the cong i was in and the branch?

FayeDunaway

I don't believe there's a difference in the announcements these days between ones who have sinned and are disfellowshipped and ones who disassociate. If I were you, I would send a note to several witnesses you care about and tell them exactly why you are disassociating. This is your last chance to communicate with them, and they won't have to speculate about what you might 'have done.' (Tho who am I kidding, of COURSE they will still speculate, they're witnesses! Lol) Maybe you can simply say that after reading the Bible very deeply you are a Christian that no longer believes witnesses have the truth, and since you are not allowed to disagree with witnesses and still associate with them (which you believe is a crazy, unblblical law), you must separate from them.

Best to you beautiful mind, and let us know how it goes.

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Disassociation letter

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

good evening.

i have a question about where to send my disassociation letter.

do i give a copy to the overseer of the cong i was in and the branch?

FayeDunaway

Beautiful mind, I know that even tho you don't have family in the cult, this is a huge step for you. Whatever you decide to do, based on the advice here, I'm very happy for you that you are ready to fully move on! Congratulations baby!!!!

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The Donald knows the JW's are the truth

by life is to short in

i swear you just cannot make this stuff up.

i just heard from an older sister in the hall that donald's trump son-in-law bought part of the brooklyn heights compound, i think she said the 25 building but what ever.

she than went on to say and to quote her "the donald knows it's the truth.

FayeDunaway

I really can see JW's wanting trump to win. He is so arrogant and immature that he would be the one to start 'Armageddon' and then witness dreams of mass destruction of innocent people would finally come true.

The only way trump would be electable is if another very major terrorist attack of the 9\11 level occurred right before election. He would play to people's fears and insecurities and may be successful. Barring that possiblity, the majority of Americans in their rational minds would never elect him.