Posts by FayeDunaway

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Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?

by AmIright in

share your thoughts ?

FayeDunaway

Before I was able to leave the witnesses but was SO ready to leave the witnesses, I had a lot of good time to study the bible and what I believed about it. I am a very social type of person who loves tradition, so finding a new church was a natural thing for me. I am also freedom loving, and don't like someone telling you what you have to believe, so a liberal church was important to me. I am now in an intelligent mainline liberal protestant church and am completely at home and completely free there. There are doctors and professors and astrophysicists and sales clerks and all kinds of different loving people. I believe in evolution and most do at church but interpretation is a private thing. We all love to worship God together.

Church isn't for everyone, and each type of church isn't for everyone...God knows I certainly wouldn't be happy just anywhere, but Ive found what is right for me and my relationship with God.

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Where is the Rebel.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

who cares?.

the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

FayeDunaway

Millie and Lisa Rose are both amazingly reasonable and nurturing souls. (Where is Lisa rose BTW??)

People like those two should be world leaders! I nominate them both :).

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Where is the Rebel.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

who cares?.

the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

FayeDunaway

GROUP HUG!!!!

lol. Millie you know I think you're fabulous ♥.

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Where is the Rebel.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

who cares?.

the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

FayeDunaway

Wow I love this thread. And I love you Pete, you're one of the good ones. Please don't feel unloved. I don't think I've ever disliked any of your posts. Just liked, and often.

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Anthony Morris claims "dogmatic" does not apply to GB.

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

so i was scrolling through the latest morning worship videos and found our good friend tony m. explaining why the gb is not dogmatic.

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you can find hirs reasoning at around the 3:30 mark here..

FayeDunaway

Fink, funny how that second definition especially has Jehovah's Witnesses written ALL over it!

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Anthony Morris claims "dogmatic" does not apply to GB.

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

so i was scrolling through the latest morning worship videos and found our good friend tony m. explaining why the gb is not dogmatic.

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you can find hirs reasoning at around the 3:30 mark here..

FayeDunaway

We are NOT dogmatic!! And you better not say we are, or you are OUT THE DOOR!!

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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

by raven in

hi friends,.

can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

FayeDunaway

Russell had predicted a few different, earlier dates, before he set on 1914 as the end of the world. The others were obviously wrong, nothing happened. In 1914 World War I started. Lucky Russell! It looked like finally maybe he was right this time. So he stood up in that dining hall and announced the end of the gentile times!! But the end didn't come. It was just a big war. So he said, Christ's presence is actually INVISIBLE, whoops! But he's here! Believe you me! And they got themselves so into the 1914 date, after saying it had already happened, that they were stuck. They said this scripture Jesus mentioned describing the destruction of Jerusalem, that's actually in reference to 1914, and the great triibulation will be in our time for the REAL fulfillment...any day now....any....day....now.....while that generation that saw 1914 got older and older. They have basically found creative ways to string people along for over a HUNDRED YEARS AFTER 1914. They often changed how long a generation was supposed to be. And then they kept changing how old someone had to be in 1914 so that they would be old enough to comprehend what was going on. Toward the end they could be 4 years old in 1914. When it was 100 years after 1914 and obviously that generation wasn't around anymore, they had to try to give themselves time SOMEHOW. So David splane did the weird unbiblical crossover generation thing. Which could conceivably buy them 80 more years! And you know, don't question them, because they are always right.

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Where is the Rebel.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

who cares?.

the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

FayeDunaway

I think that those of us with close family still in the cult can't move on from it. The cult will need to die, or our family will need to get out of the cult, for us to be done with it. It's a slave organization that utilizes mind control.The injustice screams out to us as long as the injustice continues.

I may eventually barely come here anymore, because I am addicted and need to get other things done, and this makes me feel guilty that I spend too much time here! But as long as the family I have that are still in it are alive, I will be thinking about it all the time.

For those of you with no family in it and you are ready to move on, I congratulate you and am happy this place helped you while you needed it. Moving on is healthy.

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Jehovah's Witnesses View of Jesus Compared to the Early Church

by cofty in

the following is an extract from something i wrote 16 years ago soon after leaving the watchtower.

i am posting it because it may help honest jws consider how far their beliefs are at odds with new testament christians.

if they have "the truth" then their attitude to jesus ought to reflect that of the apostles.

FayeDunaway

That's exactly what woke me up. I didn't like a talk at a circuit assembly, actually it was a visiting GB speaker, and he was being really bombastic. I started reading the new testament instead (john i believe) and noticing how many times Jesus was mentioned along with the Father. Then I would stop and listen to see if the language was similar to what I was reading.. Nope, nothing but Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah. I was beginning to realize that they were pushing their own agenda which didn't sound like the Bible, and repetition of the name Jehovah was used because their organization has that name in it, and they could use the name 'jehovah' interchangeably to mean their organization. Staying loyal to Jehovah meant lapping up whatever they were feeding us. But there was way more emphasis on Jesus in the bible, and for them to ignore that was a serious issue with me. Even if they suddenly started paying attention to him, it was too late. How could an organization that had ignored Jesus for many decades be OK?

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Are Witnesses really "Bible Students"?

by stuckinarut2 in

we were always told that as witnesses we were "sincere bible students".... carefully examining the scriptures.. yes, we were indeed taught much about the content of the bible, it's history, prophecies etc..... but it was always from one perspective....that of the society.

when the society changed its interpretations, we had to do the same..... so were we really "bible students", or "society students"?.

just a thought.....

FayeDunaway

They aren't bible students. When they start actually studying the Bible they can no longer stay witnesses because witness doctrine is totally different from what is actually in the bible. Becoming a Bible student= eventually leaving the witnesses.