I think your friends might feel guilty celebrating birthdays and Christmas because they maybe never did the research. They must still believe that it's at least partly "the truth." Unless you do the research of their history and doctrine you will just be living with the guilt. I have a friend who felt guilty for 10 years before finally delving into research. She read crisis of conscience, and websites like this one, and finally she's happy. There's no moving on emotionally from it until you research. So direct your friends to jwfacts.com and you will be doing them a favor.
FayeDunaway
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Something's Gotta Give
by pale.emperor ini've been 100% alone since my df last month.
i'm dead to my family now, unless i return to their cult - so i recently made contact with 3 former jw's that were in my cong when i was in my youth.
to my surprise, they all had exactly the same doubts and reasoning i had and said even though they've been out 6-7 years they "still feel tied to it in some way" and "feel guilty celebrating xmas or birthdays".
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Inactive ones talk... some lies I noticed
by purrpurr inthe brother giving the saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".. he said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.. and also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year .
bs!
totally bs!.
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FayeDunaway
The OP is a good warning for people interested in joining the JW's to never become 'active' in the first place! Once you join, you will never feel like you are free again. It's like the mafia. Seriously, folks.
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Rank & file are seeing the money-grubbing
by Zoos inspoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.
she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.
this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.
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FayeDunaway
They're like beggars on the street, hands stretched out, screaming at people to give them money, while telling people to rely on Jehovah for their own provisions.
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No Munich?
by darkspilver inhey simon.
you marked the nice attack with a graphic and a few words on the right hand side of the forum - i didn't think you did the same for the recent orlando attack, but i presume you decided to introduce this new box out of a mark of respect going forward following the events in nice.. therefore, i'm wondering why you have appeared not to have done the same following the munich attack?.
sorry, my bad - i think you only last posted 14 hours ago, so you're unlikely to have had time to do it yet, sorry - the 'lastest topics' feature appears to show you posting just a few minutes ago, but that's because you started the topic and somebody else has just replied to it d'oh!
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FayeDunaway
There are attacks every day, DS. The media doesn't report the ones that have become so common in some places that people have come to expect them. The Nice attack was much larger than most. Simon shouldn't be expected to officially recognize every one, but whatever he feels like acknowledging.
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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?
by bohm inthis is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
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FayeDunaway
I do remember a big announcement at a circuit assembly here in the states, that we would no longer be charging for literature at the door and it would switch to a "donation arrangement." There was no good reason given, but the real reason was that religious institutions were going to start being taxed by the federal government for all sales.
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Don't know what to do
by looter ini'm in a crazy situation.
about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.
it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.
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FayeDunaway
Looter, how is the family situation? You are past 18 now, what happened??
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How To Spot A Cult - This is what started woke me up!!
by pale.emperor inthis is the article that woke me up.
i felt sick after reading it.
then sad.
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FayeDunaway
Amazing, pale emperor. Thanks!
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Song 146 - You did it for me
by Listener inthe watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the kingdom hall is part of worship to god and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.. of all the ways in which we can worship and praise jehovah god—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to jehovah’s praise....and, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words.
it is by the words that we worship jehovah god, bringing praise to him.
as an introduction to song 146, jw org states -jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him.
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FayeDunaway
Funny, the title sounds like a Christian Rock song.
(Which, although I sing them sometimes at church, is not my favorite genre by far.)
But the words are all Jehovah's witness. You must prove your love constantly, you are never good enough, not really, you won't know till the end if you are approved. Pay me back for what I did for you.
Yuck.
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Bye and thanks for everything
by LifesNotOver inwe really went at it this weekend.
pretty ugly!
well at least now the air is cleared.
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FayeDunaway
Responding, so you will have to read :).
Sounds like a plan! Go live your life :). And come here occasionally, it doesn't have to be an addiction (like it sorta is for me).
Have a great day!
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Hi everyone, just signed up here
by samj inhi, i just signed up.
i'm 35, i've been baptized 20 years, married 15 years.
it seems like the wife and i are going in opposite directions spiritually.
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FayeDunaway
This place is less about being immoral and more about being free and able to talk. I would say most of us are happier since leaving, and it's less about sinning and more about following the natural course of your own life, without the dictates of a marginal religion. Some of us are actually more spiritual than we used to be. Doesn't sound like that will be your natural inclination, which is ok.
You sound depressed. I'm sorry your marriage has taken a downturn. You followed the typical witness pattern, baptized young, married early. It's a lot of heavy life altering decisions at a young age.
Do you have kids?