i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
yay to your mom!! I bet she comes back and reads some more to see more true things that witnesses aren't saying :).
and welcome!! I never formally introduced myself but I appreciate those who do.
I bet this is a regional thing. In places with nice climates and good schools the witnesses aren't believing so strongly anymore. In places with real struggles the paradise hope still has its luster. (Thoughts on that?)
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
When in doubt, I don't believe you have read crisis of conscience, or you wouldn't have said what you did about Ray franz. You are not knowledgable about him. Get it off your bookshelf and read it.
you do disagree then with the society about reading apostate literature, reading 'all sides of an issue' as you say. Is that your only disagreement?
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
Wid, you haven't read ray's book. Read it and see what he was like and why he left. you have heard rumors that are false. Use your 'freedom' and see.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
Wid, my 'valid reason for hate' is that I read the book of john, and saw witnesses have a messed up interpretation of God and salvation. For this, I have lost my family, because I had to leave their religion, and their religion doesn't allow me to change my religion and still associate with them. But I guess I'm just 'pretending' to have a valid reason.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
And now the appearance of 'Muslim extremists' is starting to gain on 'nazis' in arguments. but when in doubt used both, so we have a tie!
you didn't address the pedophile/protecting children issue, instead you complained about grammar....
you used protetection of youths (violence on campuses, really?) as an excuse for why college has been 'discouraged'. You very well know that THEY know education leads to thinking minds and that it is dangerous for keeping members.
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
he p.m'd me and said it was that they have never acknowledged the worship of Jesus (basically, Trinity)...they speak of their 'purity from christendom' since 1919 when the temple was cleansed of christmas etc, but don't acknowledge that they worshipped Jesus into the 50's! So it's pretty severe obfuscation and hypocrisy. I don't know how he currently feels personally about worshipping Jesus, just that the watchtower hid this, struck him hard.
Thanks for the info, I had no idea about this, even tho this is primarily the reason i left the jws...that they downplay the role of Jesus was particularly disgusting to me. I had read and heard of everything else...miracle wheat, Beth sarim, but not this thing that is the main reason I left, so it's funny.
my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
My heart is breaking for you. I've been there. Without the man-duties. It's not an easy road. One step at a time.
I still want you to tell me about this Jesus worship! I don't know about it.
