Posts by FayeDunaway

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David Schafer's Mistake

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

thanks cappytan for posting the thread "jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted".

it's a sad example of how low in simple reading skills the present gb and their helpers are.

david schafer referred to philippians 4:7 on jw broadcasting.

Sir82, How about the scripture where Jesus says to the crucified criminal on his right 'truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.' The comma is added by the nwt of course. It should be 'I say to you truly, today you will be with me in paradise.' This strikes me as humorous, because they are both DYING when Jesus is speaking. why would jesus say 'I tell you today' if the guy was dying that day?? What other day was he going to say it?? It clearly means that paradise is in heaven, and the man would be joining jesus there that day.

also, 'you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.' The notion that he was pointing to himself but that was somehow omitted from scripture is just embarrassing.

How about Thomas' 'my lord and my God!' Same thing. As if the scriptures were implying he was talking to jesus when he said my lord, but looking to the heavens when he said my God.

Simple scriptures, totally screwed with in jw doctrine.

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Elders want to meet with us, help!

by All for show in

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my husband is awake,yay!

we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

FayeDunaway

They want to meet with you so they can console these parents who complained, and say they 'handled it.' Everything is for appearances, after all. If you meet with them, I would be just very humble and say you are so sorry, you didn't mean to do anything but express your own opinions about college, and there have been so many changes about education, you weren't sure what to say to these kids beyond what you truly felt. (Lol)

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David Schafer's Mistake

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

thanks cappytan for posting the thread "jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted".

it's a sad example of how low in simple reading skills the present gb and their helpers are.

david schafer referred to philippians 4:7 on jw broadcasting.

FayeDunaway

Amazing how this scripture about depending on God, praying for peace of mind, peace that is beyond what we can understand.........is twisted by the GB to mean if you don't like the way you have been treated by witnesses according to your understanding, trust us, shut the f*** up, just keep following what we say.

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Guess what I just got in the mail?

by Question_Mans_interpretation in

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i got an invitation from an ex mormon bishop to come learn how to witness to mormons.

this guy is brave, he even invited the current local mormon bishop to attend.

here's his website leebaker.4mormon.org.

FayeDunaway

That's awesome!! Good for him. I confess I have always had troubles, prejudices, with the Mormons, maybe because they were all things I hated about my own religion, but their doctrine was even Weirder! Lol

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Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'

by LHS123 in

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sorry for the long post but i need help.

ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.

a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.

FayeDunaway

Oh honey I know, it's scary and there are so many HUGE uncertainties ahead, especially with your husband as a strong witness, eek. When I knew I wanted to leave the religion I was so desperate, I thought about leaving my husband and fighting for my kids later. But ultimately he chose me over the religion and followed me out. He eventually saw that it was just a great delusion, and had always had issues with the witness culture of pressure to conform and to keep up. But it was really scary for a while. Along the way I developed a relationship with Jesus, just by reading the bible on my own. He helped me find the right path and I will always be grateful!! My husband didn't follow me into my new church, but he's very happy to be living independently now of elders breathing on his neck :). He also is quite political. We don't talk about his spirituality, but he is happy and I don't pressure him to come the way I went. This will be a rocky path for you, but maybe he is seeing how they are treating your son and will choose family over cult as well. Read the bible together, especially the New Testament, without witness publications. Maybe this will open his eyes.

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Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'

by LHS123 in

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friends

sorry for the long post but i need help.

ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.

a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.

FayeDunaway

LHS, believe me, most if not all, of us are NOT from satan. I can honestly tell you that since leaving the witnesses (and I did it slowly) and joining another church, I am a better, less selfish, more spiritual person. You sound very similar to me, with similar doubts. I used to read the context of scriptures too and saw how they twisted them to suit their own means. To me, the scriptures were much more beautiful IN their contexts! And their meanings were much more simple, and surprise, a whole lot more like 'christendom'.

Tell me, is your husband a witness and if so, what is he like? Is this the same husband you suffered abuse from, or is this your second marriage? If I was you I would definitely celebrate your sons 16 th birthday!! it sounds like your 14 year old may have already gotten baptized? She can still fade out too in either case. Try to encourage her to do things with friends from school, join a club etc. really, that is the most important thing for her right now.

Your life is about to get better! I am hoping your husband makes this easy for you by agreeing with you. Let us know. That will make a big difference. I managed to bring my whole immediate family with me and they are all happy to be out of it, and one of my children was 14 at the time and resistant to change. Then, she made a lot of friends at school and has a boyfriend and is so so glad to be out.

Holidays don't bother me at all, it's just witness extremism. Research doctrinal issues from websites. Just type in doctrines and see what comes up. Get your purple interlinear out. Get another Bible too. I believe in evolution as well, as part of the creative process. Fundamentalism is not important, many parts of the Bible are from a human perspective and for an ancient mindset. Jesus explains who God really is, he is the exact image of him.

There is definitely life after the witnesses! You will not miss anything about them, except family who are still in. See what you can do to start living now! But save money for retirement!

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Bible Students Are NOW CONSIDERED JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

by Blackfalcon98 in

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oh my, while attending one of the boasting sessions.....an elder made reference to recent changes in watchtower terminology.

of these changes, he mentioned that bible students are now considered to be jehovah's witnesses!

this shocked me, so i was wondering have anyone else heard of this new change?

FayeDunaway

Um, yes I also hear they are going to stop celebrating Christmas!! And there are rumors that some people won't be going to heaven, but will hope to live forever in paradise on earth!! What is going on?!?

edited....lol....now I get it :) bible students! Not Bible Students.

I wonder if the hapless study has any idea they would be considered as such already.

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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

by Wasanelder Once in

"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

FayeDunaway

Phizzy, maybe a memorial invite, if it was a few weeks ago? Either way, mrs. Phizzy handled it beautifully!

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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

by Wasanelder Once in

"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

FayeDunaway

I can't believe they came to bug you after 10 years! Desperation?

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They're spying me on facebook

by cookiemaster in

most of you have probably seen the apostasy trial video posted on youtube (and all over social media) recently.

well, there's a "wordly" woman from another country that i had worked with some time ago and she's posted it, tagged me, and asked "wtf?

", knowing i'm a still a jw just for family reasons.

FayeDunaway

Yup I had two accounts too when I was fading. It was really a great way to find old friends who had left the religion! I don't know what I would have done without their support!! Now I hardly go on fb anymore, I've graduuated :) but was pretty heavily addicted for a while.