so, here i am again....asking more questions to help me understand my wife.
she was brought up in the cult in the 70's and 80's.
so i can only imagine what kind of indoctrination she deals with.
Yes, anything with a skull or skeleton on it was a no no with my mom. It's probably fear of the occult, but often cross and bones is pirate...I guess that's not ok either, tho :) adoration of naughtiness I suppose...
Im actually not sure what the obsession with skeletons is, in tattoos and on bikers jackets etc. what is the message? I know it's not occult...but is it trying to convey a lack of fear maybe? This demands research. And why is a pirates flag a skull?
i popped into the supermarket for a few things after work today and found myself walking up an aisle alongside a couple who used to be in my tuesday group.
i see them reasonably often and always say hello much to their obvious annoyance.
i noticed that ian was sporting a shaggy beard.
just come home from a weight loss class early.
it's 6 months since i da'd and two and a half years since i've been to a meeting.
there was a witness there (unless she has left, i wouldn't know) we made eye contact!
the membership rule is simple, you join the organisation for life and undertake to serve for life.. my o.p is based on the poet robert burns who talked about the gift to " see ourselfs as others see us".
i think maybe the hardest thing for me to leave, the jehovers witness " organisation" was to accept how my family and friends will now "see" me.. so my questions are how difficult was it to leave:-.
a) knowing the reaction of friends and family?.
hi all, nothing to report just now.
wanted to add name to list of those awakening.
been lurking for nearly a year.
Welcome oisif! Glad to hear of newbies.
what were *your favorite *books in the organization?.
out of all of those books, i liked "mankind's search for god.
" however, it appears to me that this book is incredibly obscure and no one recalls studying it during the old book study format.
The happiness book, very fluff, but when I was a little girl and it came out at the DC it was so FANCY with its gold cover and white roses!
I definitely remember studying Mankinds Search for God, blondie that's weird...
The creation book was definitely more interesting than the others. I didn't agree with much of what it said (its denial of early humans etc.) but I enjoyed its discussion of life, the cell, earth, space etc.
my very favorite was the Fucshia songbook. I hated when they came out with the mustard color hardback one.
The revelation book was always a bit fun, because it always got people talking 'see we need to study it again now because they know the end is here!!' and the book was batsh*t crazy.
hi this is for the lurkers.. please start reading from another translation and use tools like www.biblehub.com to verify the differences you find.. biblehub has an interlinear and a strongs concordance and heaps of dictionaries and commentaries.. you don't have to be a translator but you can clearly see how the watchtower bible and tract society has changed the bible to devalue jesus, to support their idea of a paradise earth hope for christians and many other false doctrines.. i could never understand why the jw's where attacked when they chose to translate the bible - now i know.. seriously people, there are a lot smarter people than me on this forum and heaps of research.
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don't be afraid of the truth!.
Iwasblind....when I started studying the kingdom interlinear and discovering how there was an obvious EFFORT to devalue Jesus in the NWT, I realized there was something sinister, almost satanic, about the religion I was brought up in.
Lurkers, study!! There are plenty other places to go. The truth will set you free.
okay, i don't even know where to start.
i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.
not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.
You are how many days late? You wrote your post 11 days ago....
im very glad your boyfriend is supportive! Did you move out of your parents house, by moving down south? Yes definitely keep us updated!!
the membership rule is simple, you join the organisation for life and undertake to serve for life.. my o.p is based on the poet robert burns who talked about the gift to " see ourselfs as others see us".
i think maybe the hardest thing for me to leave, the jehovers witness " organisation" was to accept how my family and friends will now "see" me.. so my questions are how difficult was it to leave:-.
a) knowing the reaction of friends and family?.
For a religion SO based on appearances and everyone constantly looking over their shoulder to watch their own back and to see who might be judging them at any moment....and being raised that way, yes, it's difficult to think about how old friends see us, and imagine they are probably shaking their heads. I know their perceptions are distorted but it does still bother me sometimes. I always tried to make everyone happy.
I wonder if they maybe remember the considerate things I did, or maybe they just remember the stupid things I occasionally said. I'm removed from them physically, which helps me forget about them and move on. My family tho, I don't see them much anymore and that hurts quite a lot. I know I'm the child that hurt her parents, my brother is the one they adore now, his kids get their grandparents attention.
But shoot of COURSE it was worth it.
as part of my journey as a sepahrdic jew, i am off on a journey that will take me to both spain and israel to apply for the right of return offered to me by both nations.. as such i will be absent from this delightful forum during this life-changing odyssey.
till that time we are together again, be assured you are in my thoughts and (for those of you who do not mind) my prayers.. please know you have contributed to me greatly and have helped me much, all of you.
it is rewarding to freely share, discuss, even debate issues here so freely.
