Posts by FayeDunaway

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The Last Time I Set Foot in a Kingdom Hall

by Oubliette in

saturday, september 19th, 2015: .

earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "daily text" which is based on a paragraph from the november 15th, 2013 article.

that magazine contains the now infamous maxim: .

FayeDunaway

At my last meeting, (and I had been fading for a long time previous) we were studying the watchtower and I raised my hand to read one of my favorite scriptures. Romans 8:38 Neither death, nor life, nor Angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.' (Sorry, I only have my new King James version nearby.)

i read it really passionately, and then was really irritated when someone made the follow up comment 'this scripture brings out' (it's always 'brings out') 'that nothing can separate us from Jehovah!'

brainwashed numbskulls.

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If only............

by tresdecu in

jw
friends

....charles taze russell's mom and dad didn't have sex back on that night in june of 1851.... weird that a married couple getting horny could affect so many lives 164 years later.. just a random friday thought.

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FayeDunaway

Apostrate thanks for noticing my username :). I think of it more like 'faded, done, and away' since I've already faded. No more pretending from me at all, ever again. whew! i like to be a really authentic person, so fading was soooooo difficult it almost drove me crazy.

Im sorry you had a dysfunctional family. I hope you've been able to surround yourself with healthy relationships now. My parents and brother treat me as almost disassociated, since I barely made it out without being disassociated and they know my position on doctrine and their policies. I hear about family emergencies and not much more. I don't like being the black sheep of the family, I always tried to make everyone happy and be a good girl, but eventually you have to live your own life according to what you want and feel is right. So that is my status, and will stay until the WT gets a heck of a lot more liberal. I'm not holding my breath. Breathing deeply, enjoying the freedom. But yeah, it does hurt to be cut off. I'm very sorry about your close friend. It's not fair that this religion separates people because of personal beliefs. It's not right.

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The Governing Body and "Josephs generation"

by The freewheeling in

hi, i m new here and not so good in english, but ive give it a try and hope you understand.. .

the whole idea of the overlapped generation is not only illogical, there are also serious errors in reasoning and how to interpret the scripture.. .

the only "scriptural argument" that the governing body has managed to bring in this matter is exodus 1: 6 where they say that a "generation" can be stretched to cover a longer period than usually meant by a "generation".

FayeDunaway

you can't make it make sense no matter what language you are speaking!

theyre scratching in the dirt, desperately trying to produce vegetation where there is no seed, hoping their own false prophesies are somehow true.

Welcome, freewheeling.

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If only............

by tresdecu in

jw
friends

....charles taze russell's mom and dad didn't have sex back on that night in june of 1851.... weird that a married couple getting horny could affect so many lives 164 years later.. just a random friday thought.

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FayeDunaway

Good points, Apostrate. But CTR started it. You're right, Rutherford made the religion like a police state. I think if russell hadn't started it and made these promises that my mother believed 'I'll never have to die! I will be beautiful forever!!'..., I know I would be better off.

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If only............

by tresdecu in

jw
friends

....charles taze russell's mom and dad didn't have sex back on that night in june of 1851.... weird that a married couple getting horny could affect so many lives 164 years later.. just a random friday thought.

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FayeDunaway

Tresdecu, I often think the same sort of thoughts. If only!! If only russell became a naturalist a la john Muir instead of 'theologian', if only my mother hadn't been at home that day the brother knocked on her door...life would have been so different for millions of us. Most for the way way better, probably a few for the worse.

(maybe if you were a kid in a ghetto and joined a gang instead of going out in service, it would be worse for you...i don't know, but I heard a quote from the wayans brothers once that suggested growing up witness was better than growing up in the ghetto not witness...but still, why not go baptist instead, and get to go to college??)

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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

by John Aquila in

let's pretend this might happen.

im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

FayeDunaway

If they drop 1914, any mention we make of '1914' we will be labeled as 'apostate.'

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Are the Governing Body broadcasts promoted at Kingdom Hall meetings?

by nicolaou in

a question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.

i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.

i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.

FayeDunaway

Ah sir82, so it's like keeping up with reading the convention releases, and reading new watchtower and awake mags.

I used to be embarrassed whenever a sister was gushing about some experience she read in an issue and she would ask me 'wasn't it wonderful???' And I would be like 'I haven't read it.'

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Faulty Reasoning to Promote God's "Name"

by Dissonant15 in

as i am newly awoken, i am daily having epiphanies & revelations now.

i've been casually wondering to myself since the propagandist broadcast about the name "jehovah" if it would be more proper to call him "yahweh" to myself.

well tonight the answer suddenly came to me: it doesn't matter.

FayeDunaway

Yes!

I remember those epiphany waking up days fondly.

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Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

by John Aquila in

last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

then out of the blue he tells me; .

FayeDunaway

Thanks siar2.

hey what's going on with these 'dislikes' ?? Usually there's some consistency with how many pluses or minuses for each point of view...these seem to be all over the place. Is something glitching or do people really feel that strongly about john's story.

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Lurker trying to gain clarity

by questioningmyfaith in

jw
friends

hello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.

i am not negative towards the wt at all.

so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.

FayeDunaway

I once felt the way you do too. I thought the org was mostly good, but I questioned the existence of God. Somehow over the years I came around to having the exact opposite belief. While I think individual people in the org are mostly good, the org itself is mostly just a high control corporation, bent on protecting itself and its assets without caring about its people, and I fully believe in God. I still love so many people who are Jw's. They're good people being manipulated and taken advantage of, strung along by their own high hopes. It was only when I went through an experience personally that my eyes started to be opened towards the organization behind them. Then I started actually reading the bible, too, which is when I found Christ. I suspect you haven't been personally hurt by the policies of the org. You sound unsympathetic to others, and rather crass. Some people need to feel it themselves to feel sympathy to others. I hope your loss of faith does not cause you to lose your family, as my change in faith caused me to lose mine. Does that seem just to you? That if I found a different faith than my birth family, I would lose them all? This particular religion we've been brought up in mandates that I can not change my religion and keep my family. It's pretty rare in the world today. Only extreme Muslims feel the same way, as far as I know. And some cults.