FayeDunaway

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  A question about fading....

  by Tornintwo in

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  2. friends

  i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

  as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

  so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

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  FayeDunaway

  Yes, family is the primary reason. Also it prevents a disfellowshipping for apostasy...if you go slow, they are less likely to suspect something.

  So it all depends on you and your circumstances, torn in two. I remember you were a convert and wanted to take it slow for your daughter's sake. She seems to have mostly come out of it, and your husband has eased up, tho he is still a believer. So the only thing you have now may be some witness friends you occasionally see.

  What is the worst that can happen, if they do Df or DA you? If you are tired of fading and ready to face the possible consequences, just stop. If the elders in your area don't give a lot of attention to people like you, you may be safe anyway.
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  Editorial in newspaper on disfellowshipping

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a norwegian regional newspaper published an article on a circuit assembly day of jws (including a photo) some weeks ago.

  following that, a df woman was interviewed in another article.. following up on that, this editorial was written and published .. http://saltenposten.no/index.php?page=vis_nyhet&nyhetid=8368.

  jehovah's witnesses are one of them.

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  FayeDunaway

  I could only read the left side as well, but it seems like a great editorial!!
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  3 local needs parts on service meeting.

  by hoser in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is scheduled on our service meeting next week to have 3 local needs parts.

  local needs 1 , local needs 2 and local needs 3.

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  FayeDunaway

  I thought local needs was scheduled, once a month, among the other talks. Were the other talks cancelled? Or are they doing it differently now. Wouldn't someone have been reproved at a previous meeting, and then local needs in the following weeks?

  Be sure to come back next week and tell us hoser!
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  Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

  by dontfitin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

  i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

  one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

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  FayeDunaway

  I don't believe 1 cor 15:27 does exclude Christ from being equal to God. It says that God was not placed under christs feet. This is because they sit side by side.
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  Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

  by dontfitin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

  i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

  one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

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  FayeDunaway

  Tenacious this sounds like a book! I'll buy one :).
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  Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

  by dontfitin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

  i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

  one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

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  FayeDunaway

  I'm kind of failing to see how adding 'else' is trinitarian.

  He is before all things.

  He is before all else.

  If anything, it seems to me that the alternate 'else' is anti-trinitarian, similar to adding 'other' to vs. 16. You say that the idea was to exempt Christ from creation. Leaving the text as 'he is before all things' seems to do a better job of showing him exempt from creation than saying 'all else.'

  In this case it seems to be less of an agenda to prove something, and more an alternate wording, not added wording, and the alternate wording does nothing to prove anything trinitarian imo. It's interesting you read it that way. It seems like you could be saying the opposite of what you are intending to say, which would be: 'Why don't you people criticize these other translations for saying 'else' in the following verse, because it sounds less trinitarian?' Maybe if their agenda was proving something unusual and saying they are the only mouthpiece of God, and everyone better listen to their unique 'truth' or be destroyed, it would be different.

  I do agree with you in your last paragraph above when you say there is no way a translator can be 100% accurate in their attempts to translate.
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  Critique of the lastest New World Translation?

  by dontfitin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.

  i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?

  one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.

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  FayeDunaway

  Hrm, my NKJV says in Collosians 1:17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

  It is still speaking of Jesus, here. I don't know what you mean about trinitarians adding 'else' to this verse, but I strongly believe no words should be added to the Bible, no matter what the agenda.

  Dontfitin...incidentally, most christians do not believe the Father and the Son are the same person. This would be strange indeed. Rather, the Trinity is 'three persons in one." I do believe Jesus is God, and witnesses ignore or twist the many verses that support this. However I believe the father is given the natural superior respect deserving of a father.

  As for the Holy Spirit, I do believe it is a person, there are several scriptures to support this, it is easy to do research online. But as for the Holy Spirit being equal to God, I dont fully agree with that. But I also don't think it's that important. A sin against the Holy Spirit is the only unforgiveable sin, however.
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  Refused to go to meeting wife broke frying pan on my car....now SHE is inactive 4 years my advice!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife is a stubborn stubborn woman.

  when we got the internet in 1998 i slowly faded due to trying to prove apostates are lairs and scum...only to find they told nothing but "the truth.

  " every qoute was checked and re-checked.

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  FayeDunaway

  Ok rub a dub! I think I havent known you well enough here yet...and apparently you have a twisted sense of humor!

  I still want a question mark option!
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  Letter to be read at meeting this week about the downsize

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.

  so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.

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  FayeDunaway

  Makemeanunbeliever, is there anything that would be huge enough to make you an unbeliever? I don't mean in God, I mean in JW's.
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  Refused to go to meeting wife broke frying pan on my car....now SHE is inactive 4 years my advice!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife is a stubborn stubborn woman.

  when we got the internet in 1998 i slowly faded due to trying to prove apostates are lairs and scum...only to find they told nothing but "the truth.

  " every qoute was checked and re-checked.

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  FayeDunaway

  It would be pure confuzzlement and trying to figure out if you were serious or joking.

  p.s. The dislike for your comment wasn't me