i always enjoyed being kind.
when someone genuinely needed a hand or what not, it felt good to help family or friends.. i don't really miss them anymore.
i faded over two years ago, so they long ago shunned me.i think about them less and less and have even forgotten some names.i did enjoy some of the friendships and the association.
If witnesses could count time 'showing love' then they might actually do it.
i used to enjoy helping witnesses in need, too. One I gave $300 to, didn't want anything back, just wanted to help her little unemployed family. She was very grateful, but was the first one to unfriend me on facebook when rumors about me leaving the religion started to go around. TRUE friendship, lol!
i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.
so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?
is it even possible?
i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.
so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?
is it even possible?
hello my dear friends,.
with the recent terror attacks on my capital, my emotions have been quite stirred and in turn my mind has been in constant motion.. i wanted to come here and give you a little update on my life.
i have officially moved on from the witnesses.
i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.
as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.
so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.
just trying to figure out what i believe in the wake of leaving the borg.
jesus message appeals, of course.
i just wanted to ask believers, christians, on this forum if you think the hope is heaven or earth.
Yeah I really admire people who say 'no regrets' but unfortunately that's far from how I feel...despite being really thankful for all my many blessings.
Back to the OP, torn I am a believer, as you know, and go to church. Most Protestant churches believe (tho they don't talk about it much) that people go to heaven, and sometime in the future, there is an earthly hope, when 'the tent of God will be with them.' They do not speculate too much on the details, but an earthly hope is definitely in their belief system. I personally yearn for both heaven and earth.
Incidentally, in my mainline church, hell is spoken of as a 'separation from God.'
I agree about many, many passages in the Old Testament that bother me. I feel that Jesus came to earth to explain what God is, and before that there was a primitive understanding. And taking a fundamentalist view of the scriptures is unhealthy, but allowing for human favoritism and weakness and the times it was written in, and errors of translation...allows me to keep some perspective on it.
for the kids:-.
so yesterday in accordance with my boys wish, we put the christmas tree and decorations up.
ridiculously early i know, but it made him happy, and even i found decorating the tree fun.. the rebel..
hi, i'm a long-time lurker who is still in due to family.
i'm hoping someone here can help me.. is there anywhere online that i can find a critique of the new bible revision?
one of the things that really got me was when i researched about the new world translation and found how there was no basis for adding jehovah's name in the new testament, and then other areas where they translated to accommodate their interpretation.
Wonderment, I appreciated your honest post as well. Even tho you and I read some scriptures differently, I think we have the same overall outlook--or at least very similar! Joining this forum it was never my purpose to argue the Trinity...I myself don't strictly adhere to it in my beliefs, as explained in a post above. I think the Trinity is an explanation of how Jesus can be referred to in the Bible several times as God, and reconciling this with there is only ONE God. To me it makes sense that since Jesus is the only begotten son of God, and man begets man, God begets God...Jesus is God and The Father is God. But as I said before, the Father is given fatherly respect. The Holy Sprit--while I do believe he is a person, and often in scripture the three are linked together, I don't believe he is also God. I think we don't really know. But mystery doesnt bother me. As your username suggests, I also like to 'wonder.'
Connie please don't be discouraged. I find also that this forum gets me down sometimes. So, I have tried to focus on helping other people who are struggling or feeling lonely...helping them feel supported. I avoid the theist/atheist arguments that go nowhere. And there so many sad stories, often without answers. But at least these people have somewhere to tell their stories, to people who understand! But really, taking breaks from the forum is healthy and go ahead and take those breaks if you need to. If you are starting to feel discouraged that is a good sign that it's time for a break.
back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.
his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.
he was always controlled by his father.
