Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

enoughisenough2 hours ago

ExBethelitenowPiMA ,"people have very dull lives"--I agree that many who are retired are in it for something to do socially with their friends

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you hit the mail on the head.

especially older ones get far more out of the org than they put in. The elders in many congs have a list of older ones and anything they need. They get lifts for meetings and ministry and any assembly or conventions.

they always get help whenever there is a need and they get visits regularly when they would have been lonely

that is my advice for anyone who is staying physically in, work on getting more out of it than you put into it.

and we have some really good friends who are physically in and we may suspect each other of being mentally agnostic but it goes unspoken

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I still don’t understand what djiana does as part of the “team” he pays her wages for?

as has been said

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

So he just said again “I was accused of going to Thailand for sex tourism when I was actually on a mental health break”

Yet he has already admitted to dating at least one sex worker while on this trip

is he hoping people don’t know the full story or does he genuinely believe people really are that stupid

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

If we are honest a lot of people have very dull lives.

getting together with a group of friends for a good old natter, yea and cakes, lots of coffee breaks

the min is just an excuse for it all

nobody takes it seriously at all. That’s not the reason for going out it’s the getting together for association

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

So the resurrection of the unrighteous will be some reserected ones who practised vile things in the old world but will be given a second chance as it were

they will be given a reasonable amount of time in the new world but if they still choose to be unrighteous they will be taken away at some point

this is what it means that unrighteousness will not be allowed, not saying it absolutely will not happen just that it won’t be allowed

It’s not a contradiction that would be laughed at if that’s the best you have got

a better one would be at the end of the thousand year reign, will these unrighteous ones have lived since their reserection (may take a long time even upto the end of the 1000yrs to bring everyone back) right up to the end of the 1000yrs?

how will some still choose to side with Satan after everything they have seen? No faith will be needed like it is now?

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes unrighteousness will not be allowed they will be killed in the new world

so it’s not a contradiction

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Would I be disfellowshiped for this?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Would someone be removed as an elder if they said they thought the GB were wrong about something? The vax mandates for theocratic schools for example?

I suspect most people on here would answer yes that question.

Well I can tell you in absolute certainty that there are growing numbers of elders a large amount actually who are not fully vaccinated and who couldn’t go to elders school this year.

They obviously think the GB are wrong and that’s why they didn’t follow the direction to take these shots, but they are not being removed as elders.

has anything like this situation ever happened in the history of the organisation?

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I’m still physically in so I stil go to the min groups in person

I still enjoy the association and the coffee breaks and one sister always has us all back for tea and cakes

i usually find a way of not doing much if any first call and only pretend to press the bell then take a long long time on the door then make excuses to go and check something with someone who I take a long time to find

im not alone in this behaviour

it used to take six months to get the territory done now it will be more like 6 years

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