Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

@ ExBethelite & DJW - Just to be clear, are you saying that during the millenium some people will practice evil deeds, (the act of doing something regularly or repeatedly) or they won't?

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Im agnostic so I don’t know.

But I’m saying there is no contradiction in JW doctrine. They are saying those that practice vile things in the old world will not be tolerated in the new world. They have a choice so if they choose to practice vile things then they will be destroyed. Simple as that.

how far they get practicing vile things before they get destroyed?

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Predict JW life in future

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I wonder how many are physically in but mentally at least doubting the GB or like me full blown thinking the GB are wrong about lots of things?

but like me they enjoy being physically in and can see how being physically in has many advantages and it’s very pleasant to see how people clean up their lives and avoid all kinds of problems by being physically in

I suspect there will be many more people like me who are physically staying in for the advantages but mentally not getting too invested because they are doubting the GB

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Predict JW life in future

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

A sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

Some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.

how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

We all know that scripture can be twisted and interpreted in many different ways

its very easy to critique anyones interpretation of the 1000 years talked about in the Bible but what you you think is the correct interpretation? That’s the hard part.

Im PIMA so I will remain physically in and mentally agnostic

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

ExBethelite, what scriptural grounds do they have for these assertions, the first assertion is indeed supported by Christian writings, the second assertion not by the canonical biblical text, since the idea of a 1000 year ‘in-between’ purgatory-style earth or reincarnation is not in the Bible.
Thus if you ask to justify, it does indeed become contradictory to the biblical texts. Yes, you can make excuses for it, but you can’t assert biblical sourcing, redemption through faith is the core of Christianity and a resurrection to incorruptible state is asserted by Paul (1 Cor 15) and various other verses.
The JWs assert a 1000 year temporary reincarnation based on misinterpretation of a single scripture in Revelation and off course Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach and a few other Judaic and early Christian apocrypha and commentaries which Russell and Rutherford were quite fond of plagiarizing for their interpretation.

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YES THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.
IM JUST SAYING ITS NOT A CONTRADICTION THAT VILE THINGS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“19 states categorically that the evil deeds will be practiced in the new world.

Paragraph 14 states categorically that evil deeds will not be practiced in the new world.”

It’s obvious that those who practice vile things in the old world have a choice

if they no longer practice vile things they can live forever

if they choose otherwise they will be killed

getting down to the nitty gritty will the vile things actually be practiced in the new world? We don’t really know, we just know that they will not be permitted!

maybe the teaching is as soon as they start to practice vile things they will immediately be destroyed

that’s the teaching anyway

there is no contradiction

it’s these cheap shots that give apostates a bad rep

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Ramapo

by Mit123 in

how much is ramapo going to cost?

my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Has Ramapo been put on hold on not?

I hear conflicting reports

I remember before the pandemic one elder said don’t go thinking that because this project is planned to be completed 2026 that the end won’t come before then, it will almost certainly be completed after Armageddon

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Dalai Lama asking boy to suck his tongue after kissing the child on his lips.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the dalai lama has apologised after footage showed him asking a boy if he wanted to suck the tibetan spiritual leader's tongue.. .

his office said he wanted to apologise to the child and his family "for the hurt his words may have caused".. .

the video also shows the dalai lama kissing the child on his lips.. soon after the pope alleged peodo activity .

ExBethelitenowPIMA

The Dalai Lama has apologised after footage showed him asking a boy if he wanted to suck the Tibetan spiritual leader's tongue.

His office said he wanted to apologise to the child and his family "for the hurt his words may have caused".

The video also shows the Dalai Lama kissing the child on his lips.

soon after the pope alleged peodo activity

what is it with all these religious leaders wanting to do this?

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

enoughisenough2 hours ago

ExBethelitenowPiMA ,"people have very dull lives"--I agree that many who are retired are in it for something to do socially with their friends

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you hit the mail on the head.

especially older ones get far more out of the org than they put in. The elders in many congs have a list of older ones and anything they need. They get lifts for meetings and ministry and any assembly or conventions.

they always get help whenever there is a need and they get visits regularly when they would have been lonely

that is my advice for anyone who is staying physically in, work on getting more out of it than you put into it.

and we have some really good friends who are physically in and we may suspect each other of being mentally agnostic but it goes unspoken

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I still don’t understand what djiana does as part of the “team” he pays her wages for?

as has been said